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There's no such thing as a visual learner

fugalfervor 4y ago
I regret making this post, with no context or explanation, and I'd like to avoid making the same mistake in the future. There is always more room to grow.
bryanrasmussen 4y ago
I guess I'm going to have to call up that psychologist that gave my daughter that evaluation and give him a piece of your mind! But aside from the flat statement do you have anything to back it up?
- thaumasiotes 4y ago
  > But aside from the flat statement do you have anything to back it up? Well, here's a comment from elsewhere in the thread: > If you can do one thing now, watch this Veritasium video to disprove the myth that you’re a visual learner: https://youtu.be/rhgwIhB58PA https://youtu.be/rhgwIhB58PA. ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31707314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31707314 ) I haven't watched the video, but, like your parent comment, I was already aware that "learning styles" was a research area supported almost exclusively by fraud. If you want more links, you can find them pretty easily through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles#Criticism .
- Diris 4y ago
  Veritasium has a very good video on the subject.[0] Sources are in the description but I might as well post them here. Pashler, H., McDaniel, M., Rohrer, D., & Bjork, R. (2008). Learning styles: Concepts and evidence. Psychological science in the public interest, 9(3), 105-119. — https://ve42.co/Pashler2008 https://ve42.co/Pashler2008 Willingham, D. T., Hughes, E. M., & Dobolyi, D. G. (2015). The scientific status of learning styles theories. Teaching of Psychology, 42(3), 266-271. — https://ve42.co/Willingham https://ve42.co/Willingham Massa, L. J., & Mayer, R. E. (2006). Testing the ATI hypothesis: Should multimedia instruction accommodate verbalizer-visualizer cognitive style?. Learning and Individual Differences, 16(4), 321-335. — https://ve42.co/Massa2006 https://ve42.co/Massa2006 Riener, C., & Willingham, D. (2010). The myth of learning styles. Change: The magazine of higher learning, 42(5), 32-35.— https://ve42.co/Riener2010 https://ve42.co/Riener2010 Husmann, P. R., & O'Loughlin, V. D. (2019). Another nail in the coffin for learning styles? Disparities among undergraduate anatomy students’ study strategies, class performance, and reported VARK learning styles. Anatomical sciences education, 12(1), 6-19. — https://ve42.co/Husmann2019 https://ve42.co/Husmann2019 Snider, V. E., & Roehl, R. (2007). Teachers’ beliefs about pedagogy and related issues. Psychology in the Schools, 44, 873–886. doi:10.1002/pits.20272 — https://ve42.co/Snider2007 https://ve42.co/Snider2007 Fleming, N., & Baume, D. (2006). Learning Styles Again: VARKing up the right tree!. Educational developments, 7(4), 4. — https://ve42.co/Fleming2006 https://ve42.co/Fleming2006 Rogowsky, B. A., Calhoun, B. M., & Tallal, P. (2015). Matching learning style to instructional method: Effects on comprehension. Journal of educational psychology, 107(1), 64. — https://ve42.co/Rogowskyetal https://ve42.co/Rogowskyetal Coffield, Frank; Moseley, David; Hall, Elaine; Ecclestone, Kathryn (2004). — https://ve42.co/Coffield2004 https://ve42.co/Coffield2004 Furey, W. (2020). THE STUBBORN MYTH OF LEARNING STYLES. Education Next, 20(3), 8-13. — https://ve42.co/Furey2020 https://ve42.co/Furey2020 Dunn, R., Beaudry, J. S., & Klavas, A. (2002). Survey of research on learning styles. California Journal of Science Education II (2). — https://ve42.co/Dunn2002 https://ve42.co/Dunn2002 [0] The Biggest Myth In Education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhgwIhB58PA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhgwIhB58PA
- atty 4y ago
  I am no expert just a curious outsider, so take this with a large grain of salt, but it is my understanding that that’s one of the most pernicious misconceptions even in practicing psychologists, but that the current high quality research suggests the learning styles theory is flawed at best and wrong at worst. This article is ~8 years old but I don’t think anything has quantitatively changed the conclusions over the intervening years. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/brain-based-learning-myth-versus-reality-testing-learning-styles-and-dual-coding/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/brain-based-learning-myth-v...
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Der_Einzige 4y ago
Not so, wordcel, there are indeed shape-rotators who can learn visually!

I regret making this post, with no context or explanation, and I'd like to avoid making the same mistake in the future. There is always more room to grow.

bryanrasmussen 4y ago

I guess I'm going to have to call up that psychologist that gave my daughter that evaluation and give him a piece of your mind! But aside from the flat statement do you have anything to back it up?

thaumasiotes 4y ago
> But aside from the flat statement do you have anything to back it up? Well, here's a comment from elsewhere in the thread: > If you can do one thing now, watch this Veritasium video to disprove the myth that you’re a visual learner: https://youtu.be/rhgwIhB58PA https://youtu.be/rhgwIhB58PA. ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31707314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31707314 ) I haven't watched the video, but, like your parent comment, I was already aware that "learning styles" was a research area supported almost exclusively by fraud. If you want more links, you can find them pretty easily through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles#Criticism .
Diris 4y ago
Veritasium has a very good video on the subject.[0] Sources are in the description but I might as well post them here. Pashler, H., McDaniel, M., Rohrer, D., & Bjork, R. (2008). Learning styles: Concepts and evidence. Psychological science in the public interest, 9(3), 105-119. — https://ve42.co/Pashler2008 https://ve42.co/Pashler2008 Willingham, D. T., Hughes, E. M., & Dobolyi, D. G. (2015). The scientific status of learning styles theories. Teaching of Psychology, 42(3), 266-271. — https://ve42.co/Willingham https://ve42.co/Willingham Massa, L. J., & Mayer, R. E. (2006). Testing the ATI hypothesis: Should multimedia instruction accommodate verbalizer-visualizer cognitive style?. Learning and Individual Differences, 16(4), 321-335. — https://ve42.co/Massa2006 https://ve42.co/Massa2006 Riener, C., & Willingham, D. (2010). The myth of learning styles. Change: The magazine of higher learning, 42(5), 32-35.— https://ve42.co/Riener2010 https://ve42.co/Riener2010 Husmann, P. R., & O'Loughlin, V. D. (2019). Another nail in the coffin for learning styles? Disparities among undergraduate anatomy students’ study strategies, class performance, and reported VARK learning styles. Anatomical sciences education, 12(1), 6-19. — https://ve42.co/Husmann2019 https://ve42.co/Husmann2019 Snider, V. E., & Roehl, R. (2007). Teachers’ beliefs about pedagogy and related issues. Psychology in the Schools, 44, 873–886. doi:10.1002/pits.20272 — https://ve42.co/Snider2007 https://ve42.co/Snider2007 Fleming, N., & Baume, D. (2006). Learning Styles Again: VARKing up the right tree!. Educational developments, 7(4), 4. — https://ve42.co/Fleming2006 https://ve42.co/Fleming2006 Rogowsky, B. A., Calhoun, B. M., & Tallal, P. (2015). Matching learning style to instructional method: Effects on comprehension. Journal of educational psychology, 107(1), 64. — https://ve42.co/Rogowskyetal https://ve42.co/Rogowskyetal Coffield, Frank; Moseley, David; Hall, Elaine; Ecclestone, Kathryn (2004). — https://ve42.co/Coffield2004 https://ve42.co/Coffield2004 Furey, W. (2020). THE STUBBORN MYTH OF LEARNING STYLES. Education Next, 20(3), 8-13. — https://ve42.co/Furey2020 https://ve42.co/Furey2020 Dunn, R., Beaudry, J. S., & Klavas, A. (2002). Survey of research on learning styles. California Journal of Science Education II (2). — https://ve42.co/Dunn2002 https://ve42.co/Dunn2002 [0] The Biggest Myth In Education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhgwIhB58PA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhgwIhB58PA
atty 4y ago
I am no expert just a curious outsider, so take this with a large grain of salt, but it is my understanding that that’s one of the most pernicious misconceptions even in practicing psychologists, but that the current high quality research suggests the learning styles theory is flawed at best and wrong at worst. This article is ~8 years old but I don’t think anything has quantitatively changed the conclusions over the intervening years. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/brain-based-learning-myth-versus-reality-testing-learning-styles-and-dual-coding/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/brain-based-learning-myth-v...
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Der_Einzige 4y ago

Not so, wordcel, there are indeed shape-rotators who can learn visually!