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Tbh I don’t understand how that’s possible given how quickly conditions on the road can change.

solardev 4y ago
Yeah, what does that even mean? 10 seconds at 60 mph is like 3 football fields long... how do you tell a driver "Ok, in ten seconds I'm going to give you back control because something bad is about to happen?"
- daanlo 4y ago
  I genuinely don‘t know, but if you can predict something bad will happen then the consequential behaviour should normally be quite clear - e.g. brake. My wild guess is therefore that the auto-pilot will switch off and give you control if it has low confidence of the surrounding: e.g. a sensor is broken, data from various sensors don‘t align (e.g. due to bad weather) or it knows it will enter a terrain for which it is less trained - going from high way to sub-urban terrain - or something similar. Really only stabbing in the dark. Anyone from Mercedes here that can explain? Edit: typo and please see other comment on Grandparent‘s comment for explanation.
speedgoose 4y ago
Perhaps it slams the brakes every time the AI confidence is low, that would cause a lot of phantom braking but it’s safer for the passengers (not the traffic behind). We will see how it goes once it’s widely deployed. It’s great to see some good competition in the market.
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niko001 4y ago
By turning it into a nearly-useless system. You can only engage Mercedes' system if a number of conditions are all met: - The route has to have been pre-mapped by Mercedes - Only works on highways - Only in traffic jam-like conditions, i.e. traffic moving slower than 60 kmh (37 mph) - No construction sites (even a single orange cone left over from prior road works will mean that you can't turn on the system / it will turn off) Under these conditions, 10 seconds doesn't sound too difficult. I still think that this is the "saner" approach than calling your product Autopilot and letting the general public beta test it (and driving in traffic jams is annoying so I wouldn't mind using the Merc system), but overall it feels mostly like a PR move to be able to say "we have a Level 3 product on the road". I read an article where Mercedes wanted to demonstrate the system to a journalist and they had to have a second car drive in front of them to artificially create a traffic jam because otherwise it wouldn't activate.
- thrill 4y ago
  It's something more than a PR move if they received approval.

Yeah, what does that even mean? 10 seconds at 60 mph is like 3 football fields long... how do you tell a driver "Ok, in ten seconds I'm going to give you back control because something bad is about to happen?"

daanlo 4y ago
I genuinely don‘t know, but if you can predict something bad will happen then the consequential behaviour should normally be quite clear - e.g. brake. My wild guess is therefore that the auto-pilot will switch off and give you control if it has low confidence of the surrounding: e.g. a sensor is broken, data from various sensors don‘t align (e.g. due to bad weather) or it knows it will enter a terrain for which it is less trained - going from high way to sub-urban terrain - or something similar. Really only stabbing in the dark. Anyone from Mercedes here that can explain? Edit: typo and please see other comment on Grandparent‘s comment for explanation.

speedgoose 4y ago

Perhaps it slams the brakes every time the AI confidence is low, that would cause a lot of phantom braking but it’s safer for the passengers (not the traffic behind). We will see how it goes once it’s widely deployed. It’s great to see some good competition in the market.

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niko001 4y ago

By turning it into a nearly-useless system. You can only engage Mercedes' system if a number of conditions are all met: - The route has to have been pre-mapped by Mercedes - Only works on highways - Only in traffic jam-like conditions, i.e. traffic moving slower than 60 kmh (37 mph) - No construction sites (even a single orange cone left over from prior road works will mean that you can't turn on the system / it will turn off) Under these conditions, 10 seconds doesn't sound too difficult. I still think that this is the "saner" approach than calling your product Autopilot and letting the general public beta test it (and driving in traffic jams is annoying so I wouldn't mind using the Merc system), but overall it feels mostly like a PR move to be able to say "we have a Level 3 product on the road". I read an article where Mercedes wanted to demonstrate the system to a journalist and they had to have a second car drive in front of them to artificially create a traffic jam because otherwise it wouldn't activate.

thrill 4y ago
It's something more than a PR move if they received approval.