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Hyperbovine didn't mention FSD. Let me spell it out for you: Autopilot is beta grade software at best. It drives straight into parked trucks.

KennyBlanken 4y ago
It routinely drives straight into parked emergency vehicles displaying a blaze of flashing lights.
- md2020 4y ago
  “Routinely” isn’t even close to the truth.
epgui 4y ago
The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta, but it does call FSD this.
- robonerd 4y ago
  > The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta That only makes it even worse.
  - epgui 4y ago
    I think the question of whether something is a beta is different than whether anyone thinks it ought to be. There’s a lot of “non-beta”, but bad, software.
    - robonerd 4y ago
      Tesla thinking this software is production ready shows a complete disconnect from either reality or common morality.
    - Barrin92 4y ago
      the difference being that most of that software doesn't move two tons of steel through traffic at lethal velocities so maybe accurate terminology is appropriate here.
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md2020 4y ago
What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? My 2022 Hyundai Elantra has a system that drives itself on highways. GM Super/UltraCruise is available on highways. Is NHTSA gonna investigate them too? Presumably they’re no farther along in self driving than Tesla is.
- fells 4y ago
  Presumably they will if they're involved in a statistically significant number of incidents.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? Do other driving assistance systems claim to drive into parked emergency vehicles?
  - brandonagr2 4y ago
    Yes, every adaptive cruise control system explicitly ignores stationary objects when travelling at highway speeds (the radar filters out stationary things, as it cant tell the difference between a road sign and a stopped car)

KennyBlanken 4y ago

It routinely drives straight into parked emergency vehicles displaying a blaze of flashing lights.

md2020 4y ago
“Routinely” isn’t even close to the truth.

epgui 4y ago

The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta, but it does call FSD this.

robonerd 4y ago
> The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta That only makes it even worse.
- epgui 4y ago
  I think the question of whether something is a beta is different than whether anyone thinks it ought to be. There’s a lot of “non-beta”, but bad, software.
  - robonerd 4y ago
    Tesla thinking this software is production ready shows a complete disconnect from either reality or common morality.
  - Barrin92 4y ago
    the difference being that most of that software doesn't move two tons of steel through traffic at lethal velocities so maybe accurate terminology is appropriate here.

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md2020 4y ago

What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? My 2022 Hyundai Elantra has a system that drives itself on highways. GM Super/UltraCruise is available on highways. Is NHTSA gonna investigate them too? Presumably they’re no farther along in self driving than Tesla is.

fells 4y ago
Presumably they will if they're involved in a statistically significant number of incidents.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? Do other driving assistance systems claim to drive into parked emergency vehicles?
- brandonagr2 4y ago
  Yes, every adaptive cruise control system explicitly ignores stationary objects when travelling at highway speeds (the radar filters out stationary things, as it cant tell the difference between a road sign and a stopped car)