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Maybe let's wait until Windows allows scrolling of a non-active window before saying this. Or moving/changing the name of a file while it's open. Or having a

Maybe let's wait until Windows allows scrolling of a non-active window before saying this. Or moving/changing the name of a file while it's open. Or having a slash in a file name.

tshell 4y ago
Pretty sure that you can scroll non-active windows. Just tried it to be sure.
- bgroins 4y ago
  Yes, works fine on Windows 11
  - iggldiggl 4y ago
    Windows 10, too. I think it didn't work in Windows 7, though. If my memory is correct, that means that it's not a super-new feature, but still relatively newish.
    - jeroenhd 4y ago
      Windows 10 (at least the first version) came out seven years ago. It's not even new anymore, it's well on its way to just becoming... old?
      - iggldiggl 4y ago
        I guess my memory is somewhat skewed by having skipped across Windows 8, true.
- pazimzadeh 4y ago
  Wow, didn't realize thank you! I still think being able to move/change the name of a file while it's open is impressive
smoldesu 4y ago
MacOS has really strong userland software, stuff like the Quartz compositor is genuinely quite hard to beat (neither Windows, x11 nor Wayland can live up to it's featureset and stability). However, MacOS as an operating system really is a mess. Especially the XNU kernel, which is still an unbelievable amalgamation of disagreeing technology. Remember, MacOS is not natively a UNIX-certified machine: all of it's UNIX compatibility comes from a BSD-based compatibility layer that hasn't really been changed since the late-90s. Oh, and the coreutils? Notoriously garbage. MacOS ships with all sorts of outdated, downgraded, vulnerable and otherwise broken shell utilities. pico instead of nano, zsh instead of modern bash... hell, even something as simple as installing git is a 700mb installation with a mandatory reboot. I'll give MacOS credit where credit is due (Apple had good design philosophies in the 2010s), but the actual operating system (see: functional network of software components) is truly awful, arguably just as bad as Windows if not worse. Just about it's only redeeming qualities are the things that Apple didn't make (like pf and process management. If you forced me to pick something that I found impressive, I'd have to choose Grand Central Dispatch, but even that isn't terribly impressive. It's mostly as if some Apple engineers decided to iterate on the fairly lackluster Linux process management. It would have been a miracle if they managed to make something worse.
- jolux 4y ago
  > even something as simple as installing git is a 700mb installation with a mandatory reboot Mandatory reboot? I've never experienced that with the Xcode command line tools.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    I could be wrong, last time I seriously used MacOS (for both personal/work uses) was Mojave. Either way, it's installing a lot more than just the 30mb of the git binary, so I learned my lesson and just installed all the GNU stuff with my package manager. Annoying to be sure, but somehow better than dealing with Apple's default way of handling it.
    - jolux 4y ago
Geezus-42 4y ago
As a Linux user, why would you want a slash in a filename?
- dmd 4y ago
  Because a very large fraction of people - greater than 90% - use forward slashes in dates, and people like putting dates in filenames. Nearly all of those people have never seen a filename path written out in text, and wouldn't care if they did.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    > Because a very large fraction of people - greater than 90% - use forward slashes in dates Citation needed
    - jen729w 4y ago
      A forward slash is a very common separator character. I did this myself the other week. Mac user. Folder was called ‘Lessons/episodes’ from memory. I only noticed it was weird when my Synology didn’t display the character. Renamed to ‘Lessons & episodes’.
      - sofixa 4y ago
        It absolutely is. That doesn't mean that 90% of the world population use forward slashes for dates.

Maybe let's wait until Windows allows scrolling of a non-active window before saying this. Or moving/changing the name of a file while it's open. Or having a slash in a file name.

tshell 4y ago

Pretty sure that you can scroll non-active windows. Just tried it to be sure.

bgroins 4y ago
Yes, works fine on Windows 11
- iggldiggl 4y ago
  Windows 10, too. I think it didn't work in Windows 7, though. If my memory is correct, that means that it's not a super-new feature, but still relatively newish.
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    Windows 10 (at least the first version) came out seven years ago. It's not even new anymore, it's well on its way to just becoming... old?
    - iggldiggl 4y ago
      I guess my memory is somewhat skewed by having skipped across Windows 8, true.
pazimzadeh 4y ago
Wow, didn't realize thank you! I still think being able to move/change the name of a file while it's open is impressive

smoldesu 4y ago

MacOS has really strong userland software, stuff like the Quartz compositor is genuinely quite hard to beat (neither Windows, x11 nor Wayland can live up to it's featureset and stability). However, MacOS as an operating system really is a mess. Especially the XNU kernel, which is still an unbelievable amalgamation of disagreeing technology. Remember, MacOS is not natively a UNIX-certified machine: all of it's UNIX compatibility comes from a BSD-based compatibility layer that hasn't really been changed since the late-90s. Oh, and the coreutils? Notoriously garbage. MacOS ships with all sorts of outdated, downgraded, vulnerable and otherwise broken shell utilities. pico instead of nano, zsh instead of modern bash... hell, even something as simple as installing git is a 700mb installation with a mandatory reboot. I'll give MacOS credit where credit is due (Apple had good design philosophies in the 2010s), but the actual operating system (see: functional network of software components) is truly awful, arguably just as bad as Windows if not worse. Just about it's only redeeming qualities are the things that Apple didn't make (like pf and process management. If you forced me to pick something that I found impressive, I'd have to choose Grand Central Dispatch, but even that isn't terribly impressive. It's mostly as if some Apple engineers decided to iterate on the fairly lackluster Linux process management. It would have been a miracle if they managed to make something worse.

jolux 4y ago
> even something as simple as installing git is a 700mb installation with a mandatory reboot Mandatory reboot? I've never experienced that with the Xcode command line tools.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  I could be wrong, last time I seriously used MacOS (for both personal/work uses) was Mojave. Either way, it's installing a lot more than just the 30mb of the git binary, so I learned my lesson and just installed all the GNU stuff with my package manager. Annoying to be sure, but somehow better than dealing with Apple's default way of handling it.
  - jolux 4y ago

Geezus-42 4y ago

As a Linux user, why would you want a slash in a filename?

dmd 4y ago
Because a very large fraction of people - greater than 90% - use forward slashes in dates, and people like putting dates in filenames. Nearly all of those people have never seen a filename path written out in text, and wouldn't care if they did.
- sofixa 4y ago
  > Because a very large fraction of people - greater than 90% - use forward slashes in dates Citation needed
  - jen729w 4y ago
    A forward slash is a very common separator character. I did this myself the other week. Mac user. Folder was called ‘Lessons/episodes’ from memory. I only noticed it was weird when my Synology didn’t display the character. Renamed to ‘Lessons & episodes’.
    - sofixa 4y ago
      It absolutely is. That doesn't mean that 90% of the world population use forward slashes for dates.