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This is not about FSD.

by epgui 4y ago

Vladimof 4y ago
It doesn't help that Musk tries to create confusion by naming things something they're not. Next thing he'll implement might be the Flying Car Update... which will turn lights green as you drive by using the 14hz infrared signal.
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robonerd 4y ago
Hyperbovine didn't mention FSD. Let me spell it out for you: Autopilot is beta grade software at best. It drives straight into parked trucks.
- KennyBlanken 4y ago
  It routinely drives straight into parked emergency vehicles displaying a blaze of flashing lights.
  - md2020 4y ago
    “Routinely” isn’t even close to the truth.
- epgui 4y ago
  The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta, but it does call FSD this.
  - robonerd 4y ago
    > The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta That only makes it even worse.
    - epgui 4y ago
      I think the question of whether something is a beta is different than whether anyone thinks it ought to be. There’s a lot of “non-beta”, but bad, software.
      - robonerd 4y ago
        Tesla thinking this software is production ready shows a complete disconnect from either reality or common morality.
      - Barrin92 4y ago
        the difference being that most of that software doesn't move two tons of steel through traffic at lethal velocities so maybe accurate terminology is appropriate here.
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- md2020 4y ago
  What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? My 2022 Hyundai Elantra has a system that drives itself on highways. GM Super/UltraCruise is available on highways. Is NHTSA gonna investigate them too? Presumably they’re no farther along in self driving than Tesla is.
  - fells 4y ago
    Presumably they will if they're involved in a statistically significant number of incidents.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? Do other driving assistance systems claim to drive into parked emergency vehicles?
    - brandonagr2 4y ago
      Yes, every adaptive cruise control system explicitly ignores stationary objects when travelling at highway speeds (the radar filters out stationary things, as it cant tell the difference between a road sign and a stopped car)
freeflight 4y ago
With the way Tesla markets autopilot [0] it's really no surprise people are using these as interchangeably as Tesla itself tends to do. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53418069 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53418069
- bagels 4y ago
  It used to say on the autopilot page "full self driving hardware". They left of the distinction that "full self driving software" is not done yet.

This is not about FSD.

by epgui 4y ago

This is not about FSD.

It doesn't help that Musk tries to create confusion by naming things something they're not. Next thing he'll implement might be the Flying Car Update... which will turn lights green as you drive by using the 14hz infrared signal.

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robonerd 4y ago

Hyperbovine didn't mention FSD. Let me spell it out for you: Autopilot is beta grade software at best. It drives straight into parked trucks.

KennyBlanken 4y ago
It routinely drives straight into parked emergency vehicles displaying a blaze of flashing lights.
- md2020 4y ago
  “Routinely” isn’t even close to the truth.
epgui 4y ago
The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta, but it does call FSD this.
- robonerd 4y ago
  > The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta That only makes it even worse.
  - epgui 4y ago
    I think the question of whether something is a beta is different than whether anyone thinks it ought to be. There’s a lot of “non-beta”, but bad, software.
    - robonerd 4y ago
      Tesla thinking this software is production ready shows a complete disconnect from either reality or common morality.
    - Barrin92 4y ago
      the difference being that most of that software doesn't move two tons of steel through traffic at lethal velocities so maybe accurate terminology is appropriate here.
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md2020 4y ago
What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? My 2022 Hyundai Elantra has a system that drives itself on highways. GM Super/UltraCruise is available on highways. Is NHTSA gonna investigate them too? Presumably they’re no farther along in self driving than Tesla is.
- fells 4y ago
  Presumably they will if they're involved in a statistically significant number of incidents.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? Do other driving assistance systems claim to drive into parked emergency vehicles?
  - brandonagr2 4y ago
    Yes, every adaptive cruise control system explicitly ignores stationary objects when travelling at highway speeds (the radar filters out stationary things, as it cant tell the difference between a road sign and a stopped car)

freeflight 4y ago

With the way Tesla markets autopilot [0] it's really no surprise people are using these as interchangeably as Tesla itself tends to do. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53418069 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53418069

bagels 4y ago
It used to say on the autopilot page "full self driving hardware". They left of the distinction that "full self driving software" is not done yet.