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No. One China means the acknowledgement that the mainland and Taiwan are part of the same country, but there may be disagreement to who the government is. Befor

No. One China means the acknowledgement that the mainland and Taiwan are part of the same country, but there may be disagreement to who the government is. Before the US recognized the PRC government, it recognized the ROC government aka the one in Taiwan, as being the sole legit government of all of China including Taiwan. So the US didn't officially support "Taiwan independence". After the US flipped to PRC, they opposed the PRC taking over Taiwan, but the "Taiwan independence" notion didn't exist in Taiwan at the time. The govt in Taiwan wanted to retake the mainland. The independence notion only came into existance relatively recently.

SenHeng 4y ago
> The independence notion only came into existance relatively recently. ie. The original generation that considered themselves Chinese has mostly died off, and now the younger generation who consider themselves Taiwanese are slowly taking over.
- rnk 4y ago
  Yes. Especially now that Taiwan is really a democratic country without it being tacitly controlled by the people and political parties left over from the early days (the KMT). And the destruction of the people of Hong Kong finishes the end of the reunification desire in Taiwan. Young people are naturally horrified about HK and reunification. It's only fools who think that the people in Taiwan want to be part of the "greater Chinese people's country" more than they want freedom.
therealcamino 4y ago
I'm not talking about whether any "Taiwan independence" notion existed in Taiwan. The US hasn't entertained fantasies of Taiwan's government taking over the mainland, for more than 50 years. In reality, the US doesn't believe that they're the same country: the status quo is that they aren't. The fact that the US can't say as much out loud, to avoid insulting the government of the PRC, doesn't make that any less true. I guess what I'm saying is, nobody should pretend that the the official pronouncements of the US are its actual beliefs or policy around Taiwan. Everybody knows the US supports Taiwan staying independent, and just has to dance around that in public statements. Anything it says to the contrary is a polite fiction without real world effect.

SenHeng 4y ago

> The independence notion only came into existance relatively recently. ie. The original generation that considered themselves Chinese has mostly died off, and now the younger generation who consider themselves Taiwanese are slowly taking over.

rnk 4y ago
Yes. Especially now that Taiwan is really a democratic country without it being tacitly controlled by the people and political parties left over from the early days (the KMT). And the destruction of the people of Hong Kong finishes the end of the reunification desire in Taiwan. Young people are naturally horrified about HK and reunification. It's only fools who think that the people in Taiwan want to be part of the "greater Chinese people's country" more than they want freedom.

therealcamino 4y ago

I'm not talking about whether any "Taiwan independence" notion existed in Taiwan. The US hasn't entertained fantasies of Taiwan's government taking over the mainland, for more than 50 years. In reality, the US doesn't believe that they're the same country: the status quo is that they aren't. The fact that the US can't say as much out loud, to avoid insulting the government of the PRC, doesn't make that any less true. I guess what I'm saying is, nobody should pretend that the the official pronouncements of the US are its actual beliefs or policy around Taiwan. Everybody knows the US supports Taiwan staying independent, and just has to dance around that in public statements. Anything it says to the contrary is a polite fiction without real world effect.