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In my experience, creeping unexplainable crashes are usually caused by recent releases which didn't receive enough testing. Sometimes these bugs go unnoticed b

In my experience, creeping unexplainable crashes are usually caused by recent releases which didn't receive enough testing. Sometimes these bugs go unnoticed by teams without sufficient monitoring. Have there been any major updates or releases 'across unconnected demographics' in the last year or two? If I was trying to solve this in my production systems, I would focus my investigation there

loceng 4y ago
mlcrypto 4y ago
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loceng 4y ago
archerx 4y ago
I like how you phrased this, I feel like this is how people had to talk in times of heavy censorship and the fact we have to pass messages like this in this day and age is terrifying and makes the future seem bleak.
- marcinzm 4y ago
  You do realize that socially imposed norms about what topics you talk about, in what context, between whom and how has probably been the norm for longer than written history?
  - Ambolia 4y ago
    The problem is that usually those norms were dictated by some monarch because he had power and took the responsibility for that power and its consequences. Now nobody is taking the responsibility, but we still have the norms.
- gpu_explorer 4y ago
  Vaccines have been in use for hundreds of years. Fear of vaccines isn't rational. https://historyofvaccines.org/ https://historyofvaccines.org/
  - MacsHeadroom 4y ago
    MRNA therapies as vaccines have been used in humans for 2 years. For terminally ill people they were used for purposes other than vaccination for ~5 years. Prior to that they caused a very high occurrence of (often deadly) problems in non-human mammals for their ~30 years of study. This is why they were only used on the terminally ill prior to COVID. "Vaccines" which have been around for a long time and MRNA therapy for vaccination are two very different things. It's like saying "Fear of Sugar of Lead isn't rational because sugars have been around for all of human history."
  - native_samples 4y ago
    That's like saying: Medical drugs have been in use for hundreds of years. Fearing experimental drugs isn't rational. Or Doctors have been doing surgery for hundreds of years. Fear of surgery isn't rational. There are at least three entirely rational reasons to "fear" vaccines: 1. They're a category, not a specific product. Safety of one doesn't automatically imply safety of all. See examples above. 2. The history of vaccines is full of failures which ended up injuring or killing healthy people e.g. polio, in more recent times, Pandemrix. 3. Vaccines appear to trigger deeply problematic psychology in which people point blank refuse to believe in any downsides at all, something you don't see in e.g. chemotherapy, surgery, drug treatments and so on. Probably it's the combination of giving them to healthy people and the collective/coercive policies that often accompany them. If anything goes wrong at all, ever, then you've hurt an innocent person who was previously fine and who trusted you, which would be tough for even the coldest most calculating person to handle. And people in public health appear to be the exact opposite of that. Therefore the sort of people who believe most strongly on vaccines are often poorly informed about them. You gave us a great example of this problem above when you revealed you thought VAERS had only 28,000 reports in it total. This is basic data and you weren't aware of it, so how rational can you really be on the topic? Certainly, vaccines are surrounded by immense propaganda as a topic. By the way in case you're wondering, before the COVID mandates I never thought about vaccines, had taken my set of shots and held "anti vaxxers" in contempt like a typical HN user. Not anymore. Watching the process of development, testing, rollout subsequent cover-ups of the real data, and blanket censorship has changed me forever. You can't unsee what happened.
elric 4y ago
Sure, let's blame vaccines in a funny roundabout way, while conveniently ignoring the more probable cause that is COVID. The article seems to suggest that underreported COVID deaths are a likely explanation. You might want to consider broadening the scope of your investigation to include probable causes ...
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  Why is it fair to entertain speculation about underreported deaths and all kinds of long-tail effects of COVID the disease, but not fair to do the same speculation about the vaccines?
  - User23 4y ago
    [flagged]
    - rnk 4y ago
      I'd put it differently. We know that the vaccine absolutely saved millions of lives. Covid directly killed millions of people plus the millions more who have life-long complications from it. The vaccine is like any substance that goes into our bodies, it might have complex interactions with the functioning of the body, just as is true for the foods we eat, the things we encounter in our environment, even aspirin was recently reconsidered as a general thing to take daily. The vaccine has been extensively tested and now we have real world testing with billions of doses given that it is extremely safe. It's hard for people to talk about any potential concerns because of the huge number of people fixated on the fact that it could have other effects (like every single medicine in the world) who constantly make bad faith arguments (you have some sickness and got the vaccine and thus they claim the "obvious" connection). People had difficult to diagnose things like chronic fatigue syndrome before there was ever a covid vaccine and we don't understand those either.
  - fastaguy88 4y ago
    Because we know that Covid kills people (more than a million in the US), and there is very little evidence that Covid vaccines have killed people ( likely fewer than 100 deaths in the US).
FunnyBadger 4y ago
epgui 4y ago
This started years ago and is unrelated to covid or to covid vaccines.
- IdEntities 4y ago
  There's a chart right in the article showing the phenomenon is limited to late 2021.
  - epgui 4y ago
    Mea culpa, my comment was actually irrelevant, I was thinking of another thing. Brain fart!
VerminOctopus1 4y ago
[flagged]
- IdEntities 4y ago
  In private conversation my PCP will express concerns about the vaccines that she steadfastly refuses to share with most patients for fear of professional repercussions. You are operating from an assumption ("the institutions of authority are healthy and aligned with the imperative of finding and disseminating the truth") which I don't share.
  - gameshot911 4y ago
    What sort of concerns? Big difference between "unsure of cost-benefit for patients aged 3-5" and "vaccines contain microchips".
    - IdEntities 4y ago
      It's more: unsure of cost-benefit for healthy males without comorbidities up to 40 and women up to 30 (especially those who were already recovered from Covid), the insanity of recommending the shots to pregnant women with zero data regarding impact on fetal development, reactivation of latent viruses like herpes simplex which might suggest some level of induced broader immune dysfunction, and the potential for vaccine enhanced disease or OAS (especially given the use of the long defunct Wuhan strain spike protein in ongoing booster campaigns). Anyway, focusing on the specifics of the concerns is to avoid the more fundamental point, which is that doctors are not some cohort which one can implicitly trust to be guided by pure objective truth and scientific rigor at all times, nor are they a perfectly homogeneous group in lockstep agreement on all scientific questions.
    - mwint 4y ago
      Either concern will get you pilloried in a roughly equal manner.
- Mountain_Skies 4y ago
  What's with politicians doing the same? Perhaps doctors and pharmacists know better than politicians what medicines should be prescribed to patients.
Cpoll 4y ago
I think the better metaphor might be patching a known day-zero exploit quickly instead of waiting for a full year test cycle (during which the full install-base is vulnerable).
ciconia 4y ago
It's not a bug, it's just creeping bloat.

loceng 4y ago

mlcrypto 4y ago

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loceng 4y ago

archerx 4y ago

I like how you phrased this, I feel like this is how people had to talk in times of heavy censorship and the fact we have to pass messages like this in this day and age is terrifying and makes the future seem bleak.

marcinzm 4y ago
You do realize that socially imposed norms about what topics you talk about, in what context, between whom and how has probably been the norm for longer than written history?
- Ambolia 4y ago
  The problem is that usually those norms were dictated by some monarch because he had power and took the responsibility for that power and its consequences. Now nobody is taking the responsibility, but we still have the norms.
gpu_explorer 4y ago
Vaccines have been in use for hundreds of years. Fear of vaccines isn't rational. https://historyofvaccines.org/ https://historyofvaccines.org/
- MacsHeadroom 4y ago
  MRNA therapies as vaccines have been used in humans for 2 years. For terminally ill people they were used for purposes other than vaccination for ~5 years. Prior to that they caused a very high occurrence of (often deadly) problems in non-human mammals for their ~30 years of study. This is why they were only used on the terminally ill prior to COVID. "Vaccines" which have been around for a long time and MRNA therapy for vaccination are two very different things. It's like saying "Fear of Sugar of Lead isn't rational because sugars have been around for all of human history."
- native_samples 4y ago
  That's like saying: Medical drugs have been in use for hundreds of years. Fearing experimental drugs isn't rational. Or Doctors have been doing surgery for hundreds of years. Fear of surgery isn't rational. There are at least three entirely rational reasons to "fear" vaccines: 1. They're a category, not a specific product. Safety of one doesn't automatically imply safety of all. See examples above. 2. The history of vaccines is full of failures which ended up injuring or killing healthy people e.g. polio, in more recent times, Pandemrix. 3. Vaccines appear to trigger deeply problematic psychology in which people point blank refuse to believe in any downsides at all, something you don't see in e.g. chemotherapy, surgery, drug treatments and so on. Probably it's the combination of giving them to healthy people and the collective/coercive policies that often accompany them. If anything goes wrong at all, ever, then you've hurt an innocent person who was previously fine and who trusted you, which would be tough for even the coldest most calculating person to handle. And people in public health appear to be the exact opposite of that. Therefore the sort of people who believe most strongly on vaccines are often poorly informed about them. You gave us a great example of this problem above when you revealed you thought VAERS had only 28,000 reports in it total. This is basic data and you weren't aware of it, so how rational can you really be on the topic? Certainly, vaccines are surrounded by immense propaganda as a topic. By the way in case you're wondering, before the COVID mandates I never thought about vaccines, had taken my set of shots and held "anti vaxxers" in contempt like a typical HN user. Not anymore. Watching the process of development, testing, rollout subsequent cover-ups of the real data, and blanket censorship has changed me forever. You can't unsee what happened.

elric 4y ago

Sure, let's blame vaccines in a funny roundabout way, while conveniently ignoring the more probable cause that is COVID. The article seems to suggest that underreported COVID deaths are a likely explanation. You might want to consider broadening the scope of your investigation to include probable causes ...

SoftTalker 4y ago
Why is it fair to entertain speculation about underreported deaths and all kinds of long-tail effects of COVID the disease, but not fair to do the same speculation about the vaccines?
- User23 4y ago
  [flagged]
  - rnk 4y ago
    I'd put it differently. We know that the vaccine absolutely saved millions of lives. Covid directly killed millions of people plus the millions more who have life-long complications from it. The vaccine is like any substance that goes into our bodies, it might have complex interactions with the functioning of the body, just as is true for the foods we eat, the things we encounter in our environment, even aspirin was recently reconsidered as a general thing to take daily. The vaccine has been extensively tested and now we have real world testing with billions of doses given that it is extremely safe. It's hard for people to talk about any potential concerns because of the huge number of people fixated on the fact that it could have other effects (like every single medicine in the world) who constantly make bad faith arguments (you have some sickness and got the vaccine and thus they claim the "obvious" connection). People had difficult to diagnose things like chronic fatigue syndrome before there was ever a covid vaccine and we don't understand those either.
- fastaguy88 4y ago
  Because we know that Covid kills people (more than a million in the US), and there is very little evidence that Covid vaccines have killed people ( likely fewer than 100 deaths in the US).

FunnyBadger 4y ago

epgui 4y ago

This started years ago and is unrelated to covid or to covid vaccines.

IdEntities 4y ago
There's a chart right in the article showing the phenomenon is limited to late 2021.
- epgui 4y ago
  Mea culpa, my comment was actually irrelevant, I was thinking of another thing. Brain fart!

VerminOctopus1 4y ago

[flagged]

IdEntities 4y ago
In private conversation my PCP will express concerns about the vaccines that she steadfastly refuses to share with most patients for fear of professional repercussions. You are operating from an assumption ("the institutions of authority are healthy and aligned with the imperative of finding and disseminating the truth") which I don't share.
- gameshot911 4y ago
  What sort of concerns? Big difference between "unsure of cost-benefit for patients aged 3-5" and "vaccines contain microchips".
  - IdEntities 4y ago
    It's more: unsure of cost-benefit for healthy males without comorbidities up to 40 and women up to 30 (especially those who were already recovered from Covid), the insanity of recommending the shots to pregnant women with zero data regarding impact on fetal development, reactivation of latent viruses like herpes simplex which might suggest some level of induced broader immune dysfunction, and the potential for vaccine enhanced disease or OAS (especially given the use of the long defunct Wuhan strain spike protein in ongoing booster campaigns). Anyway, focusing on the specifics of the concerns is to avoid the more fundamental point, which is that doctors are not some cohort which one can implicitly trust to be guided by pure objective truth and scientific rigor at all times, nor are they a perfectly homogeneous group in lockstep agreement on all scientific questions.
  - mwint 4y ago
    Either concern will get you pilloried in a roughly equal manner.
Mountain_Skies 4y ago
What's with politicians doing the same? Perhaps doctors and pharmacists know better than politicians what medicines should be prescribed to patients.

Cpoll 4y ago

I think the better metaphor might be patching a known day-zero exploit quickly instead of waiting for a full year test cycle (during which the full install-base is vulnerable).

ciconia 4y ago

It's not a bug, it's just creeping bloat.