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Stop Complaining about Apple and the App Store

16 points by ajbatac 18y ago

baha_man 18y ago
"Someone needs to teach Dan the difference between their and there before they let him hit publish again." http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/27/stop-complaining-about-apple-and-the-app-store/#comment-2484022 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/27/stop-complaining-about-...
- voidfiles 18y ago
  Seems that people read his stuff anyways, does it really matter in the end? I am sure they are way better ways to say his is stupid then correcting is grammar.
  - baha_man 18y ago
    Does it matter if a writer can't write well? Yes.
    - voidfiles 18y ago
      But it doesn't matter because many people still read his blog. That means that many people don't care if he writes well. They only care what he writes about.
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sgrove 18y ago
While this seems more of an inflammatory post to garner attention, there's an important correction to be made. Developing for the iPhone platform constitutes some degree of tacit support, it's true. But beyond that, it's important to make opposing views heard. I'm programming for it right now (taking a break to write this), and it's a fun platform, but it's not perfect. The sdk improves via developer feedback, including complaints. Likewise, feedback across the different mediums on apple's App store are much more likely to bring about change than complete silence. Let the complaints continue - likely we'll be the ones who benefit.
antirez 18y ago
He miss a fundamental point: if I buy a fork there is no NDA about what kind of food I should eat with this. I think hardware able to run software need some kind of regulation that allows the user to run every kind of software he wants to run. Apple terms are violating this idea, that is not a law (unfortunately) but for many people is even more important since it's about freedom.
- alaskamiller 18y ago
  Why do we keep comparing Apple with analogies? What if the iPhone was like a car? What if iTunes was like a fork? What if iPods were like cats? What if what Apple is doing is unique on its own and you examine their situation and determine whether you want to buy into it or not, instead of applying them to a standard in how they should behave?
  - orib 18y ago
    What if the iPhone was like a product, and we subjected it to the same standards as any other product out on the market? Just a thought, you know.
    - palish 18y ago
      ... It is, and we do.
      - orib 18y ago
        I think you missed the sarcasm.
    - alaskamiller 18y ago
      Apple doesn't make products to be fitted into comparison tables.
      - RavingGoat 18y ago
        Ever seen a PC/Mac commercial? What do you think Apple is doing? Hint... comparing.
sfamiliar 18y ago
At the end of the day, you can write an app that runs on the iPhone and is installed however you want. So long as you don't write it with the dev kit, or want to deliver it via the AppStore and install it with iTunes, the sky's the limit. Apple has the stranglehold on the platform/framework and the delivery mechanism. They can use it however they want. Now .. a nice startup idea might be an alternate delivery method from scratch. But who has that kind of time? Besides, I have a hard enough time keeping my iPhone connected on a call.
gm 18y ago
PLEASE: A way to filter out TC stories!!! We beg! I'll name my first born YCombinator! Make it stopppp!!
- thorax 18y ago
  If it's really important for you: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25039 http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25039 I didn't write the script, but feel free to name your first born "thorax". I don't think they'll like it.
voidfiles 18y ago
Compuserve, Prodigy, and AOL is to the Internet as The Apple iPhone is to _____________
nazgulnarsil 18y ago
No.
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16 points by ajbatac 18y ago

"Someone needs to teach Dan the difference between their and there before they let him hit publish again." http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/27/stop-complaining-about-apple-and-the-app-store/#comment-2484022 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/27/stop-complaining-about-...

voidfiles 18y ago
Seems that people read his stuff anyways, does it really matter in the end? I am sure they are way better ways to say his is stupid then correcting is grammar.
- baha_man 18y ago
  Does it matter if a writer can't write well? Yes.
  - voidfiles 18y ago
    But it doesn't matter because many people still read his blog. That means that many people don't care if he writes well. They only care what he writes about.

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sgrove 18y ago

While this seems more of an inflammatory post to garner attention, there's an important correction to be made. Developing for the iPhone platform constitutes some degree of tacit support, it's true. But beyond that, it's important to make opposing views heard. I'm programming for it right now (taking a break to write this), and it's a fun platform, but it's not perfect. The sdk improves via developer feedback, including complaints. Likewise, feedback across the different mediums on apple's App store are much more likely to bring about change than complete silence. Let the complaints continue - likely we'll be the ones who benefit.

antirez 18y ago

He miss a fundamental point: if I buy a fork there is no NDA about what kind of food I should eat with this. I think hardware able to run software need some kind of regulation that allows the user to run every kind of software he wants to run. Apple terms are violating this idea, that is not a law (unfortunately) but for many people is even more important since it's about freedom.

alaskamiller 18y ago
Why do we keep comparing Apple with analogies? What if the iPhone was like a car? What if iTunes was like a fork? What if iPods were like cats? What if what Apple is doing is unique on its own and you examine their situation and determine whether you want to buy into it or not, instead of applying them to a standard in how they should behave?
- orib 18y ago
  What if the iPhone was like a product, and we subjected it to the same standards as any other product out on the market? Just a thought, you know.
  - palish 18y ago
    ... It is, and we do.
    - orib 18y ago
      I think you missed the sarcasm.
  - alaskamiller 18y ago
    Apple doesn't make products to be fitted into comparison tables.
    - RavingGoat 18y ago
      Ever seen a PC/Mac commercial? What do you think Apple is doing? Hint... comparing.

sfamiliar 18y ago

At the end of the day, you can write an app that runs on the iPhone and is installed however you want. So long as you don't write it with the dev kit, or want to deliver it via the AppStore and install it with iTunes, the sky's the limit. Apple has the stranglehold on the platform/framework and the delivery mechanism. They can use it however they want. Now .. a nice startup idea might be an alternate delivery method from scratch. But who has that kind of time? Besides, I have a hard enough time keeping my iPhone connected on a call.

gm 18y ago

PLEASE: A way to filter out TC stories!!! We beg! I'll name my first born YCombinator! Make it stopppp!!

thorax 18y ago
If it's really important for you: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25039 http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25039 I didn't write the script, but feel free to name your first born "thorax". I don't think they'll like it.

voidfiles 18y ago

Compuserve, Prodigy, and AOL is to the Internet as The Apple iPhone is to _____________

nazgulnarsil 18y ago

No.

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