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Frenchman here. I leave the office at 6pm at the latest, and I take 2 hour lunch breaks everyday. :)

by achenet 4y ago

balfirevic 4y ago
That's not informative at all without knowing when you arrive.
- achenet 4y ago
  Daily meeting is at 9h30. I generally show up a bit before that if in office, or log on a bit before that if WFH. 9 at the earliest, generally closer to 9h15, 9h20. :)
ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
Just scheduled my time off for the year, 46 days off, not counting week-ends and national holidays. Please someone save me from this oppressive regime!
csdvrx 4y ago
> Frenchman here. I leave the office at 6pm at the latest, and I take 2 hour lunch breaks everyday. :) Good for you - not for me. I do intermittent fasting. I often eat by 4pm. Should I need the government authorization to eat at my desk at 4pm? (or leave at 4pm to eat at home which is equivalent to you leaving at 6pm after a 2h lunch break) Or would I need to take a 2h break I don't want to? Government regulation of lifestyles is acceptable when you have an extremely homogeneous population and culture: this can work in Japan. This might work in France. This sure won't work here in the US.
- cguess 4y ago
  Hello straw man. Read the story and the other comments. No one's forcing you to not eat at your desk in France, it's just making companies give the option not to. Not eating after 4pm is a very very rare condition in the entire world. I wouldn't expect everyone, or anyone, to take that into consideration of any policy.
  - throw10920 4y ago
    > No one's forcing you to not eat at your desk in France, it's just making companies give the option not to. Can you point out where the article says that? All I see is "The government's answer: ban lunch in the workplace."
    - goodpoint 4y ago
      What you see is clickbait. It's perfectly legal to skip lunch and go home earlier or work remotely and so on.
      - nybble41 4y ago
        It's not clickbait. You may be able to skip lunch altogether but you can't eat it at your desk: > Until now, any company allowing employees to eat lunch at their desks was subject to a fine if discovered by the inspectors who enforce the labor code. The employee in question faced unspecified disciplinary action.[0] The "until now" refers to the suspension of the law in 2021 to promote social distancing due to the COVID-19 pandemic. That suspension has since expired, so eating at one's desk is once again prohibited. The actual law is Article R4228-19: "Il est interdit de laisser les travailleurs prendre leur repas dans les locaux affectés au travail."[1] Google translates this as "It is forbidden to allow workers to take their meals in the premises assigned to the work." [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/07/world/europe/france-desk-lunch-covid.html#:~:text=allowing%20employees%20to%20eat%20lunch%20at%20their%20desks https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/07/world/europe/france-desk-... [1] https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000018531960 https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI0000...

Frenchman here. I leave the office at 6pm at the latest, and I take 2 hour lunch breaks everyday. :)

balfirevic 4y ago

That's not informative at all without knowing when you arrive.

achenet 4y ago
Daily meeting is at 9h30. I generally show up a bit before that if in office, or log on a bit before that if WFH. 9 at the earliest, generally closer to 9h15, 9h20. :)

ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago

Just scheduled my time off for the year, 46 days off, not counting week-ends and national holidays. Please someone save me from this oppressive regime!

csdvrx 4y ago

> Frenchman here. I leave the office at 6pm at the latest, and I take 2 hour lunch breaks everyday. :) Good for you - not for me. I do intermittent fasting. I often eat by 4pm. Should I need the government authorization to eat at my desk at 4pm? (or leave at 4pm to eat at home which is equivalent to you leaving at 6pm after a 2h lunch break) Or would I need to take a 2h break I don't want to? Government regulation of lifestyles is acceptable when you have an extremely homogeneous population and culture: this can work in Japan. This might work in France. This sure won't work here in the US.

cguess 4y ago
Hello straw man. Read the story and the other comments. No one's forcing you to not eat at your desk in France, it's just making companies give the option not to. Not eating after 4pm is a very very rare condition in the entire world. I wouldn't expect everyone, or anyone, to take that into consideration of any policy.
- throw10920 4y ago
  > No one's forcing you to not eat at your desk in France, it's just making companies give the option not to. Can you point out where the article says that? All I see is "The government's answer: ban lunch in the workplace."
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    What you see is clickbait. It's perfectly legal to skip lunch and go home earlier or work remotely and so on.
    - nybble41 4y ago
      It's not clickbait. You may be able to skip lunch altogether but you can't eat it at your desk: > Until now, any company allowing employees to eat lunch at their desks was subject to a fine if discovered by the inspectors who enforce the labor code. The employee in question faced unspecified disciplinary action.[0] The "until now" refers to the suspension of the law in 2021 to promote social distancing due to the COVID-19 pandemic. That suspension has since expired, so eating at one's desk is once again prohibited. The actual law is Article R4228-19: "Il est interdit de laisser les travailleurs prendre leur repas dans les locaux affectés au travail."[1] Google translates this as "It is forbidden to allow workers to take their meals in the premises assigned to the work." [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/07/world/europe/france-desk-lunch-covid.html#:~:text=allowing%20employees%20to%20eat%20lunch%20at%20their%20desks https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/07/world/europe/france-desk-... [1] https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000018531960 https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI0000...