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Honestly I'm surprised it's as low as 90%. What's the rest? The Samsung browser? From my experience using Firefox on Android, very few websites care about comp

Honestly I'm surprised it's as low as 90%. What's the rest? The Samsung browser? From my experience using Firefox on Android, very few websites care about compatibility with it.

tgv 4y ago
The Samsung browser is a Chromium wrapper. Some people dismiss wrappers around Safari on iOS, although I think there are more important things to worry about than exactly which rendering engine gets used.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  The rendering engine is less important than the JS apis. Safari is missing half of them and some of them are flat out broken.
  - tgv 4y ago
    Safari is not missing anything of value: it's mainly access to USB, Bluetooth and such which have no place in a browser. And Firefox doesn't support many of them either. It's just Google trying to get more data about you.
    - maxwell 4y ago
      Fullscreen API and web push?
    - jefftk 4y ago
      Have you tried to use indexdb on Safari?
      - jeroenhd 4y ago
        Apple accidentally opened access to that to the point where any website could read another website's data, that's when I discovered the existence of IndexedDB myself :)
        codefeenix 4y ago
        Is that not just iframe and some javascript?
    - wubin 4y ago
      > USB, Bluetooth [...] have no place in a browser How about letting users decide to which capabilities they give permission depending on what they need? I don't want to push them to download and install a whole software package locally which has usually access to more data and hardware APIs compared to a webapp that temporarily lives in a browser tab.
      - Jcowell 4y ago
        > How about letting users decide to which capabilities they give permission depending on what they need? No. In a war between Users and Developers the users always lose if there is monetary gain to be had. It isn’t as simple as “hey if you don’t want this permission that’s okay go on ahead !” It’s “we’re going to get this data whether you like it or not” I rather Strong strict privacy laws before opening the chrome dominance that will come.
  - lupire 4y ago
    Firefox on Android ia a bad experience because the rendering engine is different and slight changes have a big effect on complex plages on tiny screens.
    - stjohnswarts 4y ago
      lol why did I never have a problem with that when I was on android? People always say FF on android was awful but I just never saw it. When you got them to really talk about it they just didn't like that it didn't look like Chrome and bitter "power users" who were mad at FF for tightening up extension security. I use Apple these days because I got tired of how fiddly Android was.
- NonNefarious 4y ago
  Not really, since this means that if there's a defect in it you have no workaround.
makeitdouble 4y ago
It might be Xiaomi and other chinese maker phones coming with a Chromium based default browser
ccouzens 4y ago
> From my experience using Firefox on Android, very few websites care about compatibility with it. I get an inferior version of Facebook on mobile Firefox compared to mobile Chrome. What other sites have caused you problems?

Honestly I'm surprised it's as low as 90%. What's the rest? The Samsung browser? From my experience using Firefox on Android, very few websites care about compatibility with it.

tgv 4y ago

The Samsung browser is a Chromium wrapper. Some people dismiss wrappers around Safari on iOS, although I think there are more important things to worry about than exactly which rendering engine gets used.

Gigachad 4y ago
The rendering engine is less important than the JS apis. Safari is missing half of them and some of them are flat out broken.
- tgv 4y ago
  Safari is not missing anything of value: it's mainly access to USB, Bluetooth and such which have no place in a browser. And Firefox doesn't support many of them either. It's just Google trying to get more data about you.
  - maxwell 4y ago
    Fullscreen API and web push?
  - jefftk 4y ago
    Have you tried to use indexdb on Safari?
    - jeroenhd 4y ago
      Apple accidentally opened access to that to the point where any website could read another website's data, that's when I discovered the existence of IndexedDB myself :)
      - codefeenix 4y ago
        Is that not just iframe and some javascript?
  - wubin 4y ago
    > USB, Bluetooth [...] have no place in a browser How about letting users decide to which capabilities they give permission depending on what they need? I don't want to push them to download and install a whole software package locally which has usually access to more data and hardware APIs compared to a webapp that temporarily lives in a browser tab.
    - Jcowell 4y ago
      > How about letting users decide to which capabilities they give permission depending on what they need? No. In a war between Users and Developers the users always lose if there is monetary gain to be had. It isn’t as simple as “hey if you don’t want this permission that’s okay go on ahead !” It’s “we’re going to get this data whether you like it or not” I rather Strong strict privacy laws before opening the chrome dominance that will come.
- lupire 4y ago
  Firefox on Android ia a bad experience because the rendering engine is different and slight changes have a big effect on complex plages on tiny screens.
  - stjohnswarts 4y ago
    lol why did I never have a problem with that when I was on android? People always say FF on android was awful but I just never saw it. When you got them to really talk about it they just didn't like that it didn't look like Chrome and bitter "power users" who were mad at FF for tightening up extension security. I use Apple these days because I got tired of how fiddly Android was.
NonNefarious 4y ago
Not really, since this means that if there's a defect in it you have no workaround.

makeitdouble 4y ago

It might be Xiaomi and other chinese maker phones coming with a Chromium based default browser

ccouzens 4y ago

> From my experience using Firefox on Android, very few websites care about compatibility with it. I get an inferior version of Facebook on mobile Firefox compared to mobile Chrome. What other sites have caused you problems?