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That just illustrates that a lot of rich guys are entitled assholes. The correlation between assholery and driving an expensive car in particular has been studi

by otikik 4y ago

That just illustrates that a lot of rich guys are entitled assholes. The correlation between assholery and driving an expensive car in particular has been studied. https://youtu.be/1EHhFwGeQLc https://youtu.be/1EHhFwGeQLc

imwillofficial 4y ago
- otikik 4y ago
  The assholery part here is not about who keeps the change. It’s about telling a gas station boy “that’s how you got rich”. What makes you rich is first of all being born rich, which most rich people tend to ignore. On the few cases were we are really talking about people with humble beginnings, it’s all about making your time count. If the guy was really rich, the time it would take the boy to get inside, take 2 dollars from the cash register and give them to him was just not worth it. It was all self aggrandising bravado.
  - nicky0 4y ago
    I doubt it's even a real story. I've heard variations of it. The basic idea is "just because I'm rich doesn't mean I'm giving stuff away, how do you think I got (and stay) rich?". The ferarri, the $50 note, and other details are just embellishments in this version of the tale.
  - fastball 4y ago
    https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/how-many-millionaires-actually-inherited-their-wealth https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/how-many-milliona... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/majority-of-the-worlds-richest-people-are-self-made-says-new-report.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/majority-of-the-worlds-riche...
    - astrange 4y ago
      Think the problem here is that family members of living rich people aren't considered "rich people" themselves, but may still have the ability to spend it.
  - cft 4y ago
    [flagged]
  - edgyquant 4y ago
    The majority of wealthy Americans were not born rich. Almost half of Americans own stock and a significant portion of retired Americans are millionaires.
    - cstejerean 4y ago
      A retired American with a $1M+ in their retirement account but who needs to stretch that over 20+ years isn’t what I’d consider rich.
- UncleEntity 4y ago
  > I know! People shouldn’t feel entitled to their own change! It’s such a dick move. Back when I was driving cabs I just assumed whatever they handed me was mine and if they wanted the change they had to ask for it. Mostly worked but plenty of times I gave them their change back and got no tip. My absolute favorite was this guy taking a girl out to the fancy part of town and making a big deal about giving me a bunch of money then as soon as she was out of earshot asking for the change. Guess you gotta pay for those overpriced drinks somehow. Some people just don’t ever tip and when the non-tipping profile groups collide in a single person but they do leave a tip it messes with your mind a bunch.
theplumber 4y ago
The more we automate the better. Computers don't ask to keep the change.
- danuker 4y ago
  Google doesn't ask whether you agree to account suspension either.
  - theplumber 4y ago
    You can get kicked out of a restaurant/hotel/casino as well
    - latexr 4y ago
      When you are kicked out of an establishment, more often than not they will first ask you to leave and give you an explanation. It’s in their best interest to handle the situation as calmly as possible so you don’t cause a scene and make them lose business. You have leeway to contest the decision. Even if you’re banned, it doesn’t affect your life much. Getting kicked out of your Google account can mean losing access to all your other online accounts. That’s disruptive to your life and you might waste weeks or months dealing with a situation where you have no recourse because you can’t reason with a human. It’s routine that people get their Google accounts banned without understanding why, and thus can’t fix it. When you’re kicked out of a physical location, you’ll know why.
- latexr 4y ago
  Instead, computers will keep the change without asking and point you to an unreachable (or unhelpful) customer support number. You’ll either give up on trying to recover your change or you’ll regret not having done it sooner, after spending more of your time and sanity than the money was worth.
  - theplumber 4y ago
    I doubt that. I don't tip online purchases. Do you?
mrtksn 4y ago
I worked in the service industry in UK for a few months for the richest and most privileged people out there. I got the chance to work in events where members of the royal family were present or events where the most famous and rich people in the world were the guests. My observation is, the assholes are everywhere but also the nice and polite people. I can't really generalize it for rich or poor, I did not see that simple pattern. At that time my hourly wage was about 8 pounds and a lady at an extravagant event gave me 5 pounds and told me to keep extra good care of the table. She somehow expected to have private waiter for the night for 5 pounds sterling but I took extra good care for about 45 minutes and when she asked me why I wasn't working for her specifically any longer, I explained that 5 pounds will do just that much and she agreed. I recall once a very rich person screaming at the waiter because did not like the foam of the coffee and a few instances of rudeness but overall these were rarities. If anything, the managers were much much bigger arsholes towards the employees because they could afford it(because the employees were mostly students or immigrants like me who need the money to sustain life until they find a proper job). Employees with higher status were big assholes towards the more junior ones. Most social interactions with the rich or famous that I had or have seen were very positive and polite. In some instances I was at fault and they were very understanding and tolerant. Once I failed to deliver the coffee of a famous F1 racer at breakfast and he didn't make a big deal of it(If I was him, I would probably be much more rude). Victoria's Secret models were just fine too when received flat champagne. I'm not convinced that rich people being assholes in social interactions is a real thing. IMHO the pattern is, people who are privileged in their own social group are the assholes.
- epolanski 4y ago
  > I can't really generalize it for rich or poor, I did not see that simple pattern. My SO works as a consultant in a bank here in Rome, Italy. She moved from a bank in the periphery to a very central one in the Parioli neighborhood. There was a night and day difference between her old and new clients in wealth (with the Parioli ones being largely millionaires). Old clients would treat her with the utmost respect and call her doctor, "dottoressa", and always listen to what she had to say. New ones were on average much more rude, pretending and overall uneducated. She would have to explain them that she couldn't activate them some service because she needed their signatures and they would go all mad and call her director or some friend in the bank. They are on average much worse people and they're also much more money aware. Another anecdote she recalled me was how some rich woman wanted to set up a bank account for a no profit to send money to some african country. Not only there was no way to explain her that it was not that easy to do such operations, especially for large sums because this would have to automatically trigger money laundering controls, she would just not listen and blame her, but the client was MAD she had to pay 8 euros commissions on 60k+ euros wire transfer, pretending it to be free because it was a "no profit". Yes, there's good and bad people in each wealth tier, but rich people on average are much worse assholes. There's no comparison.
silvestrov 4y ago
This could be self-selecting: entitled assholes with money buy Ferraris while non-asshole rich people drives normal cars. How would you know that the person in the normal family car is rich?
yieldcrv 4y ago
anybody would say something snarky if the clerk asks you if they dont have to give you the rest of your money back summer child labor conscript: your total is $15 and your change is $85, lemme keep that you: ….. uhhhh you kidding me? audience: rich people are assholes!

by otikik 4y ago

imwillofficial 4y ago

otikik 4y ago
The assholery part here is not about who keeps the change. It’s about telling a gas station boy “that’s how you got rich”. What makes you rich is first of all being born rich, which most rich people tend to ignore. On the few cases were we are really talking about people with humble beginnings, it’s all about making your time count. If the guy was really rich, the time it would take the boy to get inside, take 2 dollars from the cash register and give them to him was just not worth it. It was all self aggrandising bravado.
- nicky0 4y ago
  I doubt it's even a real story. I've heard variations of it. The basic idea is "just because I'm rich doesn't mean I'm giving stuff away, how do you think I got (and stay) rich?". The ferarri, the $50 note, and other details are just embellishments in this version of the tale.
- fastball 4y ago
  https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/how-many-millionaires-actually-inherited-their-wealth https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/how-many-milliona... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/majority-of-the-worlds-richest-people-are-self-made-says-new-report.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/majority-of-the-worlds-riche...
  - astrange 4y ago
    Think the problem here is that family members of living rich people aren't considered "rich people" themselves, but may still have the ability to spend it.
- cft 4y ago
  [flagged]
- edgyquant 4y ago
  The majority of wealthy Americans were not born rich. Almost half of Americans own stock and a significant portion of retired Americans are millionaires.
  - cstejerean 4y ago
    A retired American with a $1M+ in their retirement account but who needs to stretch that over 20+ years isn’t what I’d consider rich.
UncleEntity 4y ago
> I know! People shouldn’t feel entitled to their own change! It’s such a dick move. Back when I was driving cabs I just assumed whatever they handed me was mine and if they wanted the change they had to ask for it. Mostly worked but plenty of times I gave them their change back and got no tip. My absolute favorite was this guy taking a girl out to the fancy part of town and making a big deal about giving me a bunch of money then as soon as she was out of earshot asking for the change. Guess you gotta pay for those overpriced drinks somehow. Some people just don’t ever tip and when the non-tipping profile groups collide in a single person but they do leave a tip it messes with your mind a bunch.

theplumber 4y ago

The more we automate the better. Computers don't ask to keep the change.

danuker 4y ago
Google doesn't ask whether you agree to account suspension either.
- theplumber 4y ago
  You can get kicked out of a restaurant/hotel/casino as well
  - latexr 4y ago
    When you are kicked out of an establishment, more often than not they will first ask you to leave and give you an explanation. It’s in their best interest to handle the situation as calmly as possible so you don’t cause a scene and make them lose business. You have leeway to contest the decision. Even if you’re banned, it doesn’t affect your life much. Getting kicked out of your Google account can mean losing access to all your other online accounts. That’s disruptive to your life and you might waste weeks or months dealing with a situation where you have no recourse because you can’t reason with a human. It’s routine that people get their Google accounts banned without understanding why, and thus can’t fix it. When you’re kicked out of a physical location, you’ll know why.
latexr 4y ago
Instead, computers will keep the change without asking and point you to an unreachable (or unhelpful) customer support number. You’ll either give up on trying to recover your change or you’ll regret not having done it sooner, after spending more of your time and sanity than the money was worth.
- theplumber 4y ago
  I doubt that. I don't tip online purchases. Do you?

mrtksn 4y ago

I worked in the service industry in UK for a few months for the richest and most privileged people out there. I got the chance to work in events where members of the royal family were present or events where the most famous and rich people in the world were the guests. My observation is, the assholes are everywhere but also the nice and polite people. I can't really generalize it for rich or poor, I did not see that simple pattern. At that time my hourly wage was about 8 pounds and a lady at an extravagant event gave me 5 pounds and told me to keep extra good care of the table. She somehow expected to have private waiter for the night for 5 pounds sterling but I took extra good care for about 45 minutes and when she asked me why I wasn't working for her specifically any longer, I explained that 5 pounds will do just that much and she agreed. I recall once a very rich person screaming at the waiter because did not like the foam of the coffee and a few instances of rudeness but overall these were rarities. If anything, the managers were much much bigger arsholes towards the employees because they could afford it(because the employees were mostly students or immigrants like me who need the money to sustain life until they find a proper job). Employees with higher status were big assholes towards the more junior ones. Most social interactions with the rich or famous that I had or have seen were very positive and polite. In some instances I was at fault and they were very understanding and tolerant. Once I failed to deliver the coffee of a famous F1 racer at breakfast and he didn't make a big deal of it(If I was him, I would probably be much more rude). Victoria's Secret models were just fine too when received flat champagne. I'm not convinced that rich people being assholes in social interactions is a real thing. IMHO the pattern is, people who are privileged in their own social group are the assholes.

epolanski 4y ago
> I can't really generalize it for rich or poor, I did not see that simple pattern. My SO works as a consultant in a bank here in Rome, Italy. She moved from a bank in the periphery to a very central one in the Parioli neighborhood. There was a night and day difference between her old and new clients in wealth (with the Parioli ones being largely millionaires). Old clients would treat her with the utmost respect and call her doctor, "dottoressa", and always listen to what she had to say. New ones were on average much more rude, pretending and overall uneducated. She would have to explain them that she couldn't activate them some service because she needed their signatures and they would go all mad and call her director or some friend in the bank. They are on average much worse people and they're also much more money aware. Another anecdote she recalled me was how some rich woman wanted to set up a bank account for a no profit to send money to some african country. Not only there was no way to explain her that it was not that easy to do such operations, especially for large sums because this would have to automatically trigger money laundering controls, she would just not listen and blame her, but the client was MAD she had to pay 8 euros commissions on 60k+ euros wire transfer, pretending it to be free because it was a "no profit". Yes, there's good and bad people in each wealth tier, but rich people on average are much worse assholes. There's no comparison.

silvestrov 4y ago

This could be self-selecting: entitled assholes with money buy Ferraris while non-asshole rich people drives normal cars. How would you know that the person in the normal family car is rich?

yieldcrv 4y ago

anybody would say something snarky if the clerk asks you if they dont have to give you the rest of your money back summer child labor conscript: your total is $15 and your change is $85, lemme keep that you: ….. uhhhh you kidding me? audience: rich people are assholes!