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Crypto-currency nonsense aside, the article clearly goes into DIDs which is on its way to becoming a standard. https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/ https://www.w3.o

Crypto-currency nonsense aside, the article clearly goes into DIDs which is on its way to becoming a standard. https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/ https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/ > Decentralized identifiers (DIDs) are a new type of identifier that enables verifiable, decentralized digital identity. A DID refers to any subject (e.g., a person, organization, thing, data model, abstract entity, etc.) as determined by the controller of the DID. In contrast to typical, federated identifiers, DIDs have been designed so that they may be decoupled from centralized registries, identity providers, and certificate authorities. Specifically, while other parties might be used to help enable the discovery of information related to a DID, the design enables the controller of a DID to prove control over it without requiring permission from any other party. DIDs are URIs that associate a DID subject with a DID document allowing trustable interactions associated with that subject.

hinkley 4y ago
Nobody gives a shit if your name is Steve Irving. They care if you're wanted in three extradition-treaty countries or on an Interpol list. Federated identities mean you can have five of them and none of them are counterfeit, which is exactly the opposite of what they want to let you into a country, out of a country, to take out a loan, or to be sitting in a jail cell. There was a time that having multiple identities online was a sensible thing to do, and many in the privacy community wanted this, but now that State actors are fucking with elections, that use case is in serious jeopardy.
- 1over137 4y ago
  State actors have been fucking with elections since elections existed. Do you perhaps have a recent example in mind from somewhere dear to you? How it is different from countless other cases?
- Grimburger 4y ago
  Did you respond to the wrong comment? I have no idea what you are trying to say here sorry.
  - hinkley 4y ago
    I could ask you the same. You responded to > in the end, it boils down to everyone just asking to see the passport or some other government ID, or a proxy for that (credit card, library card, with a standard on distributed identity. That doesn't answer the question. I doubled down on what OP said. So if you don't see how my response isn't a follow-up, then the three of us are talking past each other.
    - forum_ghost 4y ago
      Correct. There is nothing "self" or "sovereign" about having your "government name" certified cryptographically by the state. Oh, you generated your own key material all by yourself, and THEN the government signed it? That's the innovation? Who cares. There is no value. The -only- reason anyone cares about your identity is because it's mandated to do some checks by the government. Also, to deter fraud, as mandated by your insurance companies and credit card processors. In both cases, there are legal requirements set out that mandate what exactly you must do. Often it would be the passport, plus second source of identity, plus an address check, plus proof of liveness. Nobody asked for an open standard. Nobody really cares about identity except for banks/financials corps. When was the last time you woke up and felt, damn, all I wanna do is identity, identity, identity?
      - celdon25 4y ago
        > When was the last time you woke up and felt, damn, all I wanna do is identity, identity, identity? As someone who went through the clown show gauntlet of crypto scammers and charlatans as a freelancer, I’m going to have to disagree. This is going to be most useful for the crypto community, not the brick and mortar world, nor Silicon Valley or the HN community.
    - Grimburger 4y ago
      I suggest you read my w3 consortium link. Self sovereign identities and decentralised identities very much overlap to the point of being synonyms.

hinkley 4y ago

Nobody gives a shit if your name is Steve Irving. They care if you're wanted in three extradition-treaty countries or on an Interpol list. Federated identities mean you can have five of them and none of them are counterfeit, which is exactly the opposite of what they want to let you into a country, out of a country, to take out a loan, or to be sitting in a jail cell. There was a time that having multiple identities online was a sensible thing to do, and many in the privacy community wanted this, but now that State actors are fucking with elections, that use case is in serious jeopardy.

1over137 4y ago
State actors have been fucking with elections since elections existed. Do you perhaps have a recent example in mind from somewhere dear to you? How it is different from countless other cases?
Grimburger 4y ago
Did you respond to the wrong comment? I have no idea what you are trying to say here sorry.
- hinkley 4y ago
  I could ask you the same. You responded to > in the end, it boils down to everyone just asking to see the passport or some other government ID, or a proxy for that (credit card, library card, with a standard on distributed identity. That doesn't answer the question. I doubled down on what OP said. So if you don't see how my response isn't a follow-up, then the three of us are talking past each other.
  - forum_ghost 4y ago
    Correct. There is nothing "self" or "sovereign" about having your "government name" certified cryptographically by the state. Oh, you generated your own key material all by yourself, and THEN the government signed it? That's the innovation? Who cares. There is no value. The -only- reason anyone cares about your identity is because it's mandated to do some checks by the government. Also, to deter fraud, as mandated by your insurance companies and credit card processors. In both cases, there are legal requirements set out that mandate what exactly you must do. Often it would be the passport, plus second source of identity, plus an address check, plus proof of liveness. Nobody asked for an open standard. Nobody really cares about identity except for banks/financials corps. When was the last time you woke up and felt, damn, all I wanna do is identity, identity, identity?
    - celdon25 4y ago
      > When was the last time you woke up and felt, damn, all I wanna do is identity, identity, identity? As someone who went through the clown show gauntlet of crypto scammers and charlatans as a freelancer, I’m going to have to disagree. This is going to be most useful for the crypto community, not the brick and mortar world, nor Silicon Valley or the HN community.
  - Grimburger 4y ago
    I suggest you read my w3 consortium link. Self sovereign identities and decentralised identities very much overlap to the point of being synonyms.