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Not a conspiracy theory. DDT was disposed of by dropping 27,000 barrels of the substance in the Pacific off the coast of Catalina Islands. Is your complaint t

Not a conspiracy theory. DDT was disposed of by dropping 27,000 barrels of the substance in the Pacific off the coast of Catalina Islands. Is your complaint that actual harm to a human has not been proven by this incident? I’m kinda curious (not really) where you stand on mRNA based COVID-19 vaccines given your phrasing of your dismissal of harm.

version_five 4y ago
This comment is so stupid. It starts with some facts, or corrections to a misconception in the grandparent post. That's reasonable. Then what, some weird jump to covid and the idea they the GP may also have an unorthodox view about it, presumably something that's viewed as a mortal sin? GP may have been quick to push back on the DDT thing, but suddenly it's been taken into religious inquisition territory. This is pretty fucked up.
- thephyber 4y ago
  I’m not sure there was a misconception in the GP. That author obviously knew what this article/title was in reference to and rejected it with high confidence. Too high confidence, in my estimation. So high as to be hubris. His description of the popular narrative and describing it as a “conspiracy theory” puts him into what I would describe as reactionary politics. Hence, my mention that I could likely predict this reactionary stance on mRNA vaccines. Not for sure, but with relatively high confidence. Unorthodox view is one thing, and is defensible. GP’s attitude was more derisive than that. You are right to the extent that my comment didn’t benefit from mention of vaccines. But yours doesn’t benefit from the hyperbole of mortal sin or religious inquisition.
daniel-cussen 4y ago
Saying it was a conspiracy theory is not in this case accusing them of lying. I agree it's true. True conspiracy theory, it was totally immoral and they did it as a team. Theorization is generally the only sure-fire way of detecting conspiracies, some conspiracy theories are true, there's conspiracies, Julius Caesar's death of course. Officially declared a conspiracy by Rome.
- thephyber 4y ago
  > Saying it was a conspiracy theory is not in this case accusing them of lying. The bottom of GP seemed to deny it happened or at least denied it caused harm to the nearby human population. You are defending a position opposing that of the author’s likely intent.
  - daniel-cussen 4y ago
    Yeah that is what I say when I reread it, wow. The intent of my post was did they actually dig deep into scandals and get fresh scandals? Like maybe there's plutonium mixed in with the DDT, which I agree is there. I mean did they corroborate it, see for themselves? Rake mud?

version_five 4y ago

This comment is so stupid. It starts with some facts, or corrections to a misconception in the grandparent post. That's reasonable. Then what, some weird jump to covid and the idea they the GP may also have an unorthodox view about it, presumably something that's viewed as a mortal sin? GP may have been quick to push back on the DDT thing, but suddenly it's been taken into religious inquisition territory. This is pretty fucked up.

thephyber 4y ago
I’m not sure there was a misconception in the GP. That author obviously knew what this article/title was in reference to and rejected it with high confidence. Too high confidence, in my estimation. So high as to be hubris. His description of the popular narrative and describing it as a “conspiracy theory” puts him into what I would describe as reactionary politics. Hence, my mention that I could likely predict this reactionary stance on mRNA vaccines. Not for sure, but with relatively high confidence. Unorthodox view is one thing, and is defensible. GP’s attitude was more derisive than that. You are right to the extent that my comment didn’t benefit from mention of vaccines. But yours doesn’t benefit from the hyperbole of mortal sin or religious inquisition.

daniel-cussen 4y ago

Saying it was a conspiracy theory is not in this case accusing them of lying. I agree it's true. True conspiracy theory, it was totally immoral and they did it as a team. Theorization is generally the only sure-fire way of detecting conspiracies, some conspiracy theories are true, there's conspiracies, Julius Caesar's death of course. Officially declared a conspiracy by Rome.

thephyber 4y ago
> Saying it was a conspiracy theory is not in this case accusing them of lying. The bottom of GP seemed to deny it happened or at least denied it caused harm to the nearby human population. You are defending a position opposing that of the author’s likely intent.
- daniel-cussen 4y ago
  Yeah that is what I say when I reread it, wow. The intent of my post was did they actually dig deep into scandals and get fresh scandals? Like maybe there's plutonium mixed in with the DDT, which I agree is there. I mean did they corroborate it, see for themselves? Rake mud?