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Are there any reliable information sources covering how the war is actually going? On any given day you can read both that Russia is struggling and that Ukrain

by skc 4y ago

Are there any reliable information sources covering how the war is actually going? On any given day you can read both that Russia is struggling and that Ukraine is ceding territory fast.

sofixa 4y ago
> Are there any reliable information sources covering how the war is actually going? Plenty, yes. FT, Reuters, Guardian, etc. Fast is pretty relative. Considering the fact we've been hearing about fighting in Severodonetsk for what, a week, at least, now? Russia's advance is dangerous, brutal, but very narrow and slow compared to the initial "blitzkrieg" they tried to pull of. But not WWI ten meters a day slow.
- grishka 4y ago
  > Russia's advance is dangerous, brutal, but very narrow and slow compared to the initial "blitzkrieg" they tried to pull of. We coined the word "blitzcringe" (блицкринж) to describe this situation.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    That's a very good term for it.
gwbas1c 4y ago
Ukraine is very large. It can gain and lose territory in different parts at the same time.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> On any given day you can read both that Russia is struggling and that Ukraine is ceding territory fast. Those aren't incompatible situations in this kind of war. Russia is advancing fairly quickly (though not without significant reverses) since focusing on taking a strip of southern territory rather than decapitating and forcing the surrender of the Ukrainian regime. There are also still taking insanely high casualties and material losses that cannot be replenished on any reasonable timescale (Ukraine is taking high casualties, proportionately more than Russia, but also defending their homes; this matters in terms of casualties that can be taken without collapsing the populations will to fight; and Ukraine is getting a flood of material from outside supporters.) While there's wide variance in estimates, Russia's casualties in its four month war look to be at least in the neighborhood of those the Soviet Union took in its decade long war in Afghanistan, which was widely seen as the USSRs Vietnam and a major contributor to the fall of the country, and the USSR was much bigger than Russia. And it's ever worse when you look at the casualties among senior officers and combat pilots.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > Russia is advancing fairly quickly (though not without significant reverses) since focusing on taking a strip of southern territory rather than decapitating and forcing the surrender of the Ukrainian regime Russia also has a bad habit of advancing and then failing to hold territory. Ukraine, for good measure, has become good at baiting them into overextending.
- lobocinza 4y ago
  > Ukraine is taking high casualties, proportionately more than Russia. 41M (Ukraine) vs 145M (Russia) I'm curious on what are the numbers for military age men as Russia is demographically fucked.
foverzar 4y ago
> Are there any reliable information sources covering how the war is actually going? Pretty much none. Everything is too opinionated and post-truth-ish, best strategy would be to diversify sources pushing different angles, and then cross-reference.
polotics 4y ago
The most reliable source, that cannot lie, is the NASA FIRMS website: where fires burn is where arty shells landed...
lobocinza 4y ago
> On any given day you can read both that Russia is struggling and that Ukraine is ceding territory fast. That's true on different fronts. Recently Ukraine lost territory in Donetsk & Lugansk while recovering territory at Kharkiv and Kherson. Russia concentrated forces at Donetsk & Lugansk, it's their biggest offensive. Ukraine concentrated forces at Kherson, it's their offensive. In other words both sides are trading territory with no clear winner while losing a ton of men and equipment where Russia is apparently losing a lot more. Giving this it's said that Russian campaign is unsustainable on the long term but Ukrainians are also under equiped and depend on donations & leases. https://www.understandingwar.org/ https://www.understandingwar.org/
jacknews 4y ago
I can't say if they are unbiased or not, but at least they're not CNN, Al Jazeera, RT, etc: https://www.understandingwar.org/ https://www.understandingwar.org/ https://www.defconlevel.com/ https://www.defconlevel.com/ https://defconwarningsystem.com/ https://defconwarningsystem.com/

by skc 4y ago

Are there any reliable information sources covering how the war is actually going? On any given day you can read both that Russia is struggling and that Ukraine is ceding territory fast.

sofixa 4y ago

> Are there any reliable information sources covering how the war is actually going? Plenty, yes. FT, Reuters, Guardian, etc. Fast is pretty relative. Considering the fact we've been hearing about fighting in Severodonetsk for what, a week, at least, now? Russia's advance is dangerous, brutal, but very narrow and slow compared to the initial "blitzkrieg" they tried to pull of. But not WWI ten meters a day slow.

grishka 4y ago
> Russia's advance is dangerous, brutal, but very narrow and slow compared to the initial "blitzkrieg" they tried to pull of. We coined the word "blitzcringe" (блицкринж) to describe this situation.
- sofixa 4y ago
  That's a very good term for it.

gwbas1c 4y ago

Ukraine is very large. It can gain and lose territory in different parts at the same time.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> On any given day you can read both that Russia is struggling and that Ukraine is ceding territory fast. Those aren't incompatible situations in this kind of war. Russia is advancing fairly quickly (though not without significant reverses) since focusing on taking a strip of southern territory rather than decapitating and forcing the surrender of the Ukrainian regime. There are also still taking insanely high casualties and material losses that cannot be replenished on any reasonable timescale (Ukraine is taking high casualties, proportionately more than Russia, but also defending their homes; this matters in terms of casualties that can be taken without collapsing the populations will to fight; and Ukraine is getting a flood of material from outside supporters.) While there's wide variance in estimates, Russia's casualties in its four month war look to be at least in the neighborhood of those the Soviet Union took in its decade long war in Afghanistan, which was widely seen as the USSRs Vietnam and a major contributor to the fall of the country, and the USSR was much bigger than Russia. And it's ever worse when you look at the casualties among senior officers and combat pilots.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> Russia is advancing fairly quickly (though not without significant reverses) since focusing on taking a strip of southern territory rather than decapitating and forcing the surrender of the Ukrainian regime Russia also has a bad habit of advancing and then failing to hold territory. Ukraine, for good measure, has become good at baiting them into overextending.
lobocinza 4y ago
> Ukraine is taking high casualties, proportionately more than Russia. 41M (Ukraine) vs 145M (Russia) I'm curious on what are the numbers for military age men as Russia is demographically fucked.

foverzar 4y ago

> Are there any reliable information sources covering how the war is actually going? Pretty much none. Everything is too opinionated and post-truth-ish, best strategy would be to diversify sources pushing different angles, and then cross-reference.

polotics 4y ago

The most reliable source, that cannot lie, is the NASA FIRMS website: where fires burn is where arty shells landed...

lobocinza 4y ago

> On any given day you can read both that Russia is struggling and that Ukraine is ceding territory fast. That's true on different fronts. Recently Ukraine lost territory in Donetsk & Lugansk while recovering territory at Kharkiv and Kherson. Russia concentrated forces at Donetsk & Lugansk, it's their biggest offensive. Ukraine concentrated forces at Kherson, it's their offensive. In other words both sides are trading territory with no clear winner while losing a ton of men and equipment where Russia is apparently losing a lot more. Giving this it's said that Russian campaign is unsustainable on the long term but Ukrainians are also under equiped and depend on donations & leases. https://www.understandingwar.org/ https://www.understandingwar.org/

jacknews 4y ago

I can't say if they are unbiased or not, but at least they're not CNN, Al Jazeera, RT, etc: https://www.understandingwar.org/ https://www.understandingwar.org/ https://www.defconlevel.com/ https://www.defconlevel.com/ https://defconwarningsystem.com/ https://defconwarningsystem.com/