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> There isn't a lot of outdoorsy things to do aside from hanging out by the pool anyways though. The nature is ugly and there are no hills. That's primarily wh

by EB66 4y ago

> There isn't a lot of outdoorsy things to do aside from hanging out by the pool anyways though. The nature is ugly and there are no hills. That's primarily why people tolerate Seattle's climate. 9 months out of the year it will often be grey and rainy, but the natural wilderness is phenomenal exactly because of that. If you're into the outdoors, backpacking, fishing, kayaking, canoeing, mountain biking, trail running, skiing, rock climbing, there's tons of stuff within an hour drive of the city. If you get out backpacking and chat with other people you meet on the trails, it's a pretty common refrain that they moved here in large part for the outdoors. And then when July - Sept rolls around and it's consistently warm and sunny -- you can't beat it! Personally, the grey rainy weather was never really off putting for me. But that's probably because I was born here and I'm used to it. It's like that Bane quote from Batman: "Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!"

bin_bash 4y ago
One notable difference between Texas and PNW weather is that during the winter in the PNW you'll pretty much never get a nice day. There might be a single weekend in March where the weather hits 65 or so. In Texas our winters have a lot of variability, there isn't a 2 week period without a 75 or even 80 degree day. Perfect for hanging out in the park or going for a walk in the dead of "winter". I wouldn't advocate for our weather generally but I do like these breaks from winter we seem to get.
davidw 4y ago
But with remote work, you can, say, go east of the Cascades where the weather is better and you have all that outdoor stuff too. I grew up in Eugene and I am just done with that much rain and, like others have mentioned, endless gray.
- bin_bash 4y ago
  As someone that's done remote work for a long time, I wouldn't live east of the Cascades because it's so far from any good airport. (Also because my family and I are big travelers). Post-2020 we don't visit the office much but once your company wants you to come into the office every quarter that 3 hour drive each way from Bend is going to be hell—or dealing with that postage stamp of an airport in Redmond. Even if your office is close enough for a regional airport you might change jobs. Of course Eugene basically has the same problem.
  - simmons 4y ago
    I haven't had to do any business travel since the pandemic started, but I agree that proximity to a good airport can be an important consideration. There are probably a number of other reasons keeping me in the Denver area, but the ability to walk out my front door, take a train to an airport where I can travel anywhere in the country quickly and cheaply... it's a killer feature. Some friends recently moved to Asheville, NC, which seems to be an attractive destination these days. But it's hard for them to find affordable flights, and they end up with out of the way connections that make travel onerous. Once when I was visiting Deadwood, SD, I talked to a guy who recently moved there from Denver and travels for work. But his company doesn't want to pay the high prices to fly out of Rapid City, so he found himself driving six hours back to Denver to catch flights! If I was considering a move to a smaller metro or a rural area, I'd need to think hard about how well I could push back against my customer's requests for travel.
  - davidw 4y ago
    I don't travel much for work and am not a big traveller. This isn't really a big problem, and RDM does have daily flights to most major west coast destinations.
Tiktaalik 4y ago
> Personally, the grey rainy weather was never really off putting for me. But that's probably because I was born here and I'm used to it. It's like that Bane quote from Batman: "Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!" haha same as me. I don't mind it but I'm used to it. Though another colleague of mine from elsewhere has a better answer those that dislike the PNW winter. He'd assert that no, winter is the best time of the year in the PNW. Why? Because when it's raining in the city, it's snowing in the mountains. Learn to snowboard and it'll be your favourite time of year too.

by EB66 4y ago

bin_bash 4y ago

One notable difference between Texas and PNW weather is that during the winter in the PNW you'll pretty much never get a nice day. There might be a single weekend in March where the weather hits 65 or so. In Texas our winters have a lot of variability, there isn't a 2 week period without a 75 or even 80 degree day. Perfect for hanging out in the park or going for a walk in the dead of "winter". I wouldn't advocate for our weather generally but I do like these breaks from winter we seem to get.

davidw 4y ago

But with remote work, you can, say, go east of the Cascades where the weather is better and you have all that outdoor stuff too. I grew up in Eugene and I am just done with that much rain and, like others have mentioned, endless gray.

bin_bash 4y ago
As someone that's done remote work for a long time, I wouldn't live east of the Cascades because it's so far from any good airport. (Also because my family and I are big travelers). Post-2020 we don't visit the office much but once your company wants you to come into the office every quarter that 3 hour drive each way from Bend is going to be hell—or dealing with that postage stamp of an airport in Redmond. Even if your office is close enough for a regional airport you might change jobs. Of course Eugene basically has the same problem.
- simmons 4y ago
  I haven't had to do any business travel since the pandemic started, but I agree that proximity to a good airport can be an important consideration. There are probably a number of other reasons keeping me in the Denver area, but the ability to walk out my front door, take a train to an airport where I can travel anywhere in the country quickly and cheaply... it's a killer feature. Some friends recently moved to Asheville, NC, which seems to be an attractive destination these days. But it's hard for them to find affordable flights, and they end up with out of the way connections that make travel onerous. Once when I was visiting Deadwood, SD, I talked to a guy who recently moved there from Denver and travels for work. But his company doesn't want to pay the high prices to fly out of Rapid City, so he found himself driving six hours back to Denver to catch flights! If I was considering a move to a smaller metro or a rural area, I'd need to think hard about how well I could push back against my customer's requests for travel.
- davidw 4y ago
  I don't travel much for work and am not a big traveller. This isn't really a big problem, and RDM does have daily flights to most major west coast destinations.

Tiktaalik 4y ago

> Personally, the grey rainy weather was never really off putting for me. But that's probably because I was born here and I'm used to it. It's like that Bane quote from Batman: "Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!" haha same as me. I don't mind it but I'm used to it. Though another colleague of mine from elsewhere has a better answer those that dislike the PNW winter. He'd assert that no, winter is the best time of the year in the PNW. Why? Because when it's raining in the city, it's snowing in the mountains. Learn to snowboard and it'll be your favourite time of year too.