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Yes, the housing is, by-and-large, a lot cheaper, but the cities are not super walkable (if that's important to you) and the weather is often the opposite of co

by zucked 4y ago

Yes, the housing is, by-and-large, a lot cheaper, but the cities are not super walkable (if that's important to you) and the weather is often the opposite of cold and wet - it's hot and muggy. I don't do well with humidity, so a huge swath of the US is out for me. Plugging this tool again because it ate up an hour of my day last time it was posted: https://www.movemap.io/explore/us https://www.movemap.io/explore/us

Victerius 4y ago
Cold and wet weather is great. When climate change renders the southwestern United States and large parts of Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia uninhabitable, people will be ready to kill for the right to live in a cold and wet weather.
- lllkgxsgnc 4y ago
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  - zucked 4y ago
    While I agree that having a modicum of restraint about making claims of Mad Max being imminent is prudent, I also believe that this is coming to a head at least during our children's lifetime, if not ours. The earth isn't hosed tomorrow - we've probably got a couple of decades yet, but the writing is on the wall. OP can plan according to their risk appetite. I'm sure as heck not trying to buy a million acre ranch in Wyoming right now, that's for sure.
mhzsh 4y ago
Well, thanks for eating up a bunch of my time, too. It feels like some of the data its using for hazards is wrong. My current county gets excluded by "avoid hurricanes" and "avoid tornados", where I don't remember there ever being a tornado (definitely nothing major), and hurricane risk is very low (not directly coastal).
- bombcar 4y ago
  "Tornado" is way too wide - there are some places where they're more common, but even there the chance a tornado hits where you are is still low. Where I am we had a big tornado 120 years ago and we're still talking about it. So we're in a "tornado danger area" but ... snow is the much bigger danger.
softcactus 4y ago
If you can find a pre-war (WWII) neighborhood there is actually still a decent amount of walkability. The issue is that these neighborhoods are typically the first to be gentrified and are likely very expensive. Small to mid sized southern towns typically have a nice dense pre-war core nieghborhood with high levels of tree cover and small businesses within walking distance which is nice.
angarg12 4y ago
Great website! thanks a lot for that. This seems to confirm my intuition. Our parameters spit out southern california and a few places in Texas, including Austin. SoCal is still incredibly expensive. I considered Austin before but I'm a bit concerned about politics. Although I know it's a bit of a progressive bubble, Texas is still overwhelmingly and overly conservative, so that might be a big drag.
- kodah 4y ago
  > Texas is still overwhelmingly and overly conservative, so that might be a big drag. Kind of, keep in mind ~50% of Texas votes Democrat, Republicans just squeeze wins. Also keep in mind that Texas Democrats are not like national Democrats, and I'd hardly call Austin something like "progressive". It marches to its own tune, which is just fine for Texas.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Kind of, keep in mind ~50% of Texas votes Democrat In Presidential elections, since 1976, the range is 37.1% to 51.1% with 46.5% in 2020 the highest since the 51.1% which was in 1976. The median in that time period has been 41.4%.
    - kodah 4y ago
      Sounds about right, there's more variance for local and state elections. Definitely doesn't fit the narrative that a lot of folks like to run with about Texas. Personally speaking, I'd go back to Texas if it stayed purple-ish and didn't adopt or drive national narratives of either party.
      - dragonwriter 4y ago
        If you go back to '74, gubernatorial elections are pretty similar in distribution to the Presidential since '76, but with less recent strength; you've got a narrow Dem majority in '74, a plurality win by a Democratic in 1990, and a lot of big blowout wins by Republicans, with all but one after 1994 being 10-point or greater margins ('98 was over 30 points, 2006 was a hair under 10 points, but it was also a weird four way race.) “~50%” as the typical Democratic share of the vote in Texas requires a generous interpretation of the approximation symbol.
pharmakom 4y ago
Neat tool! Unfortunately my temperature preferences restrict me to some of the most expensive places in the US!

by zucked 4y ago

Victerius 4y ago

Cold and wet weather is great. When climate change renders the southwestern United States and large parts of Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia uninhabitable, people will be ready to kill for the right to live in a cold and wet weather.

lllkgxsgnc 4y ago
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- zucked 4y ago
  While I agree that having a modicum of restraint about making claims of Mad Max being imminent is prudent, I also believe that this is coming to a head at least during our children's lifetime, if not ours. The earth isn't hosed tomorrow - we've probably got a couple of decades yet, but the writing is on the wall. OP can plan according to their risk appetite. I'm sure as heck not trying to buy a million acre ranch in Wyoming right now, that's for sure.

mhzsh 4y ago

Well, thanks for eating up a bunch of my time, too. It feels like some of the data its using for hazards is wrong. My current county gets excluded by "avoid hurricanes" and "avoid tornados", where I don't remember there ever being a tornado (definitely nothing major), and hurricane risk is very low (not directly coastal).

bombcar 4y ago
"Tornado" is way too wide - there are some places where they're more common, but even there the chance a tornado hits where you are is still low. Where I am we had a big tornado 120 years ago and we're still talking about it. So we're in a "tornado danger area" but ... snow is the much bigger danger.

softcactus 4y ago

If you can find a pre-war (WWII) neighborhood there is actually still a decent amount of walkability. The issue is that these neighborhoods are typically the first to be gentrified and are likely very expensive. Small to mid sized southern towns typically have a nice dense pre-war core nieghborhood with high levels of tree cover and small businesses within walking distance which is nice.

angarg12 4y ago

Great website! thanks a lot for that. This seems to confirm my intuition. Our parameters spit out southern california and a few places in Texas, including Austin. SoCal is still incredibly expensive. I considered Austin before but I'm a bit concerned about politics. Although I know it's a bit of a progressive bubble, Texas is still overwhelmingly and overly conservative, so that might be a big drag.

kodah 4y ago
> Texas is still overwhelmingly and overly conservative, so that might be a big drag. Kind of, keep in mind ~50% of Texas votes Democrat, Republicans just squeeze wins. Also keep in mind that Texas Democrats are not like national Democrats, and I'd hardly call Austin something like "progressive". It marches to its own tune, which is just fine for Texas.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Kind of, keep in mind ~50% of Texas votes Democrat In Presidential elections, since 1976, the range is 37.1% to 51.1% with 46.5% in 2020 the highest since the 51.1% which was in 1976. The median in that time period has been 41.4%.
  - kodah 4y ago
    Sounds about right, there's more variance for local and state elections. Definitely doesn't fit the narrative that a lot of folks like to run with about Texas. Personally speaking, I'd go back to Texas if it stayed purple-ish and didn't adopt or drive national narratives of either party.
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      If you go back to '74, gubernatorial elections are pretty similar in distribution to the Presidential since '76, but with less recent strength; you've got a narrow Dem majority in '74, a plurality win by a Democratic in 1990, and a lot of big blowout wins by Republicans, with all but one after 1994 being 10-point or greater margins ('98 was over 30 points, 2006 was a hair under 10 points, but it was also a weird four way race.) “~50%” as the typical Democratic share of the vote in Texas requires a generous interpretation of the approximation symbol.

pharmakom 4y ago

Neat tool! Unfortunately my temperature preferences restrict me to some of the most expensive places in the US!