>I was listening to NPR a while ago and they had story on about governments that paid for ransomware attacks so they could access critical records. That's where

>I was listening to NPR a while ago and they had story on about governments that paid for ransomware attacks so they could access critical records. That's where we're at today. Was that before or after listening to NPR and their story about private companies that paid for ransomeware attacks (https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1003972313 https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1003972313, many many others)?