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Don't purchase DRM'ed or hosted bits. There's the solution. I haven't bought software or games in years.

hourago 4y ago
Telling people to just stop participating in society seems an extreme approach. Playing games with friends use part of growing in current society. Laws for consumer protection seem a better time tested way of aligning consumer and companies goals.
- npc12345 4y ago
  > Playing games with friends use part of growing in current society. Young people are broke where I live, they either pirate or just outright not have game consoles (most do not have consoles)., They're managing just fine, they play stuff on their phones or hang out and talk and eat some ice cream, or have parties/get togethers.
- diffeomorphism 4y ago
  Where did they say that? You can get lots of drm-free games and software. Going out of you way to do that is like only getting fairtrade whatever, a bit unusual and restrictive but hardly "stop participating in society".
  - boomboomsubban 4y ago
    Yeah, but my friends may not care. Unless I select my friends based on free software views or enforce my dogma on my friends, participating in society will often require compromises.
    - mrtranscendence 4y ago
      True that compromises of some sort are always necessary, but I think you folks are overstating the degree to which refraining from DRM would be tantamount to withdrawing from society. All sorts of people could in principle almost entirely limit themselves to DRM-free software and media with minimal withdrawal from society. You happen to have friends you want to play online games with, but my brother doesn't, and neither does my girlfriend, or other people I know. There are other challenges (maybe they work with companies that require them to use Office 365), but they could limit their contact with SaaS or DRM in their personal lives. They won't -- they frankly have no particularly good reason to from their perspective -- but they could.
    - diffeomorphism 4y ago
      Sure, just like going for a non-fair coffee with friends. > will often require compromises. That is true for everything and hence an incredibly boring argument.

Telling people to just stop participating in society seems an extreme approach. Playing games with friends use part of growing in current society. Laws for consumer protection seem a better time tested way of aligning consumer and companies goals.

npc12345 4y ago
> Playing games with friends use part of growing in current society. Young people are broke where I live, they either pirate or just outright not have game consoles (most do not have consoles)., They're managing just fine, they play stuff on their phones or hang out and talk and eat some ice cream, or have parties/get togethers.
diffeomorphism 4y ago
Where did they say that? You can get lots of drm-free games and software. Going out of you way to do that is like only getting fairtrade whatever, a bit unusual and restrictive but hardly "stop participating in society".
- boomboomsubban 4y ago
  Yeah, but my friends may not care. Unless I select my friends based on free software views or enforce my dogma on my friends, participating in society will often require compromises.
  - mrtranscendence 4y ago
    True that compromises of some sort are always necessary, but I think you folks are overstating the degree to which refraining from DRM would be tantamount to withdrawing from society. All sorts of people could in principle almost entirely limit themselves to DRM-free software and media with minimal withdrawal from society. You happen to have friends you want to play online games with, but my brother doesn't, and neither does my girlfriend, or other people I know. There are other challenges (maybe they work with companies that require them to use Office 365), but they could limit their contact with SaaS or DRM in their personal lives. They won't -- they frankly have no particularly good reason to from their perspective -- but they could.
  - diffeomorphism 4y ago
    Sure, just like going for a non-fair coffee with friends. > will often require compromises. That is true for everything and hence an incredibly boring argument.