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Rising prices are affecting the ability to meet expenses for most Canadians
- kramerger 4y agoSaw a video on Reddit where some MP brings this up and the other MPs laugh and ridicule him :(
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- puranjay 4y agoOur country’s finance minister was asked about the high price of onions - a key staple in the Indian diet - and she quipped that she doesn’t care because she doesn’t eat onions. Our rulers are cruel, intentionally so.
- gradschoolfail 4y agoAre onions considered vegan in India ? Is it a caste-based dietary restriction?
- rightbyte 4y agoWhere on earth are onions not considered vegan?
- EForEndeavour 4y agoThis thread made me learn that strict followers of Jainism don't eat "root vegetables such as potatoes, onions, roots and tubers as they are considered ananthkay. Ananthkay means one body, but containing infinite lives. A root vegetable such as potato, though from the looks of it is one article, is said to contain infinite lives in it." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism Another reason the above page lists: consumption of most root vegetables involves uprooting and killing the entire plant, whereas consumption of most terrestrial vegetables does not kill the plant. Perhaps the most surprising part for me: "Strict Jains do not consume food that has been stored overnight, as it possesses a higher concentration of micro-organisms (for example, bacteria, yeast etc.) as compared to food prepared and consumed the same day."
- FooBarBizBazz 4y agoWestern veganism and vegetarianism are not the same as in India. Indian "veg" cuisine disallows eggs (unlike western vegetarian) but allows milk (unlike western veganism). There is also a stricter form in which garlic and onions are disallowed, because they are said to inflame the passions. There was a time when some Westerners believed similar things, which is how the world got corn flakes. And some other things I won't go into here.
- puranjay 4y agoYes, some castes and religions don't eat onions.
- MisterSandman 4y agoOnions are vegan. The definition of the word "vegan" doesn't change depending on what country you're from. There are religions within India that don't eat onion (Jainism come to mind).
- tablespoon 4y ago> Our country’s finance minister was asked about the high price of onions - a key staple in the Indian diet - and she quipped that she doesn’t care because she doesn’t eat onions. This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOPEaZfHiMs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOPEaZfHiMs
- FooBarBizBazz 4y agoA decade ago in India, this was taken much more seriously: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Indian_onion_crisis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Indian_onion_crisis
- revolvingocelot 4y agoI'm no fan of the Conservatives, the "political" "party" responsible for said laughter and ridicule, but it's important to point out that that video [0] is of Question Period, which, much like Britain's (and presumably other Westminister parliamentary democracies), isn't decorous at all, unlike normal House proceedings. Rather, QP is reserved for gotchas, laughter, and ridicule -- which doesn't entirely absolve the Cons, but it should be seen as less "mask-off evil" and more "unnecessarily theatrical, but about something actually genuinely important rather than a meaningless political scandal". So, callous, and uh, approaching evil, but not there yet. The "some MP" in question is Jagmeet Singh, the leader of the NDP, Canada's perennially second-banana left-wing party. To translate the status of the NDP into American: you can think of them as those third-party candidates who'd actually usher in change, but thanks to FUD everyone votes for one of the two neoliberals [1]. [0] https://youtu.be/mvzrfn9szsA?t=1907 https://youtu.be/mvzrfn9szsA?t=1907 [1] https://frinkiac.com/caption/S08E01/1276507 https://frinkiac.com/caption/S08E01/1276507
- wnolens 4y ago> To translate the status of the NDP into American: you can think of them as those third-party candidates who'd actually usher in change, but thanks to FUD everyone votes for one of the two neoliberals I don't think the fear, uncertainty, and doubt are unwarranted when your policy proposal are roughly "free everything for everyone" and "no rich people allowed". I'm being a bit crass, but I don't have the time to dig up and cite their policy proposals from the federal election a few years ago which looked like a fantasy wishlist that ignores things like "costs".
- revolvingocelot 4y ago>I'm being a bit crass, but I don't have the time to dig up and cite their policy proposals from the federal election a few years ago which looked like a fantasy wishlist that ignores things like "costs". Just an FYI to other HN users: this is just lies. Whether ignorance or malice, it's lies. The above position isn't an unusual one in the Canadian right wing, though; I bet the above poster voted for Kodos. Regarding the 2021 election: >In the IFSD report released Sunday, the NDP platform was rated high by Mr. Page’s institute for realistic fiscal assumptions and passed on fiscal responsibility, but got a failing grade on transparency. [0] And as for Kodos' team: >Mr. Page’s team gave the Conservative costed platform a passing grade overall, but a score of “fail” under the category of responsible fiscal management. [0] The NDP are often maligned this way, yet cursory examination of federal (and even most provincial!) political history shows that, er, the Conservatives are the ones who are bad with money. [1] It's just that Postmedia, our media monopoly, is mostly owned by the American-right-wing-aligned Chatham Asset Management, and thus backs the Cons more often than not. [0] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ndp-is-the-last-of-three-main-parties-to-release-platform-costing-as/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ndp-is-the-... [1] https://rabble.ca/economy/ndp-far-have-most-fiscally-responsible-record-any-federal-party/ https://rabble.ca/economy/ndp-far-have-most-fiscally-respons...
- wnolens 4y agoThey were laughing at his proposal [1], which seems like it would increase inflation in the same way that stimulus checks and rock-bottom interest rates did - by giving people cheap/free money. Jagmeet Singh likes to characterize businesses as blood sucking institutions making money hand over fist. But competition in a healthy market makes it so that you can't just increase profit margins, because a competitor will eat your lunch. One big issue in Canada is that there is a lack of competition. Close friends who are entrepreneurs in Canada tell me that starting/operating a business in Canada is really difficult compared to the US (a lot more regulations, a lot less capital, and investors are really conservative). Telecom in Canada is pretty much a cartel - 3 providers, price fixing/geography-exclusion agreements, they inhabit the regulatory boards, ... [1] https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ndp-wants-to-redistribute-excess-corporate-profits-to-canadians-to-ease-inflation https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ndp-wants-to-redistri...
- rowanajmarshall 4y agoA great article on this subject: https://palladiummag.com/2019/09/19/how-not-to-build-a-country-canadas-late-soviet-pessimism/ https://palladiummag.com/2019/09/19/how-not-to-build-a-count...
- 908B64B197 4y ago> They were laughing at his proposal [1], which seems like it would increase inflation in the same way that stimulus checks and rock-bottom interest rates did - by giving people cheap/free money. Interestingly, that's something fairly common in Indian politics: trying to squeeze out the vote from certain ethnic groups with handouts. It's just that some Indian politicians are a little more direct (It was once explained to me that a race was won after one party declared they would give out flat screen TVs should they win...). > Close friends who are entrepreneurs in Canada tell me that starting/operating a business in Canada is really difficult compared to the US (a lot more regulations, a lot less capital, and investors are really conservative). That's something a Canadian founder echoed to me long ago. He was trying to raise with a friend from Switzerland and basically couldn't get anyone to take him seriously (I think the only offer he got in Canada was for a loan if he could make something like 10K in profits per months?). Even getting a meeting took several months. He was about to shelve the project when he came down to the valley (heading out to Yosemite to go climbing) and tried to schedule a meeting or two with some VCs. To his surprise, he was able to pitch to three different investors in a span of two days. Long story short, he eventually decided to move to the valley and that's where he and his co-founder secured funding.
- rightbyte 4y agoIs the money printing catching up to us? I feel like there has been a huge misallocation of the nation's resources towards top of the pyramid endouvers like gig apps, banks, "tech", estate etc rather than base infrastructure and manufacturing/agriculture. All due to the easy money for these sexy sectors. For a long time.
- wronglyprepaid 4y ago> I feel like there has been a huge misallocation of the nation's resources towards top of the pyramid endouvers like gig apps, banks, "tech", estate etc rather than base infrastructure and manufacturing/agriculture. Any reason the government allocated it to those endeavors?
- rightbyte 4y agoDunno. Buying houseloan bounds prints money for real estate which central banks do. I got no explaination for the others other than a hunch that money ends up there.
- spolsky0 4y agoCorruption is the obvious reason. Moneyed interests buying politicians to work in favor of the rich. Did you want a less boring, more easy to fix reason?
- NDizzle 4y agoDon't give up your firearms, Canadians.
- Cupertino95014 4y agoNot being Canadian and having never lived there, I apologize for my ignorance. (I have been there several times, and not just Toronto & Montreal & Vancouver, either.) I'll refrain from any mentions of hockey, poutine, eh, or Gordon Lightfoot. Canada strikes me as more than ripe for a split. Quebec goes one way, Ontario another, Manitoba - Saskatchewan - Alberta another, BC a fourth, and I don't know about the other provinces. The ultra-progressive Trudeau minority government should have fallen a long time ago. Their "conservatives" are about as worthless as California Republicans.
- briga 4y agoThe prairie provinces are more similar to the midwest—culturally and geographically—than they are to the rest of Canada. It would be a huge economic boon for them to just succeed to the US. Without the prairies the rest of Canada loses its breadbasket and primary revenue stream (oil), which would not bode well for Canadian unity, especially since Quebec already almost split off from the rest of the country.
- tablespoon 4y ago> The prairie provinces are more similar to the midwest—culturally and geographically—than they are to the rest of Canada. It would be a huge economic boon for them to just succeed to the US. Wasn't that talked about in the 90s or something (maybe as a reaction to the idea of Quebec independence)? My recollection was the idea fizzled because any transition period would be longer than those provinces expected (it also may have not been that serious of a proposal).
- briga 4y agoIt's generally been on the fringe of provincial politics, but the idea has been getting more attention from the Western provinces after years of being let down by the federal government. Peter Zeihan wrote a thoughtful analysis of it in in his excellent book The Accidental Superpower.
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- antiverse 4y agoCanadian here, working out of our downtown Toronto office today. I'll meander with this reply - the topic itself has a nebulous, uncertain quality to it. The situation is pretty bad but, as usual, it's very difficult to actually put a proper description and anecdote on some of the things that have been happening. Reddit et al as usual have been calling for protests, and have for some time - see r/canada, r/ontario, r/canadahousing, the usual bunch. Plenty of memes there if you're in need of them for a Friday afternoon. In truth, we have had protests throughout the pandemic for various reasons; almost no protest was covered by the media. We've had a handful of marches in Toronto, long before the "Freedom Convoy" scare which was, as far as I could tell talking to friends who live/work in Ottawa downtown, a fabrication by the media - which would explain why it was covered to such great degree. I don't want to turn this post into a conspiracy theory type thing, just calling it as I see it. A nothingburger that was spun for some purpose unknown to me. Now, back to prices. The situation is as bad as it seems, probably worse than I can tell. Those of us in tech are sort of okay; tech companies here are okay with regular salary bumps that, at the very least, offset inflation. We know we are fucked and no amount of money at the moment will really feel like it's "enough" because the inflation has made people's incomes, essentially, worthless for the time being. Even if you're well off, if you were making a million/yr before now you're making 200k/yr. Your purchasing power has fell through the ground. I feel very bad for most of the population who is not in this luxurious position (and it is luxurious, by all accounts). A few years ago we were at peak golden age, now we are slowly coming down and it's a hard crash for many people. I see a lot more homeless on the street here. These are "fresh" homeless - you can see it because their body language, over all appearance has not yet degraded. The Bank of Canada is trying to do something to control the housing prices/inflation, however whatever they do will negatively impact the local affordability. Not sure what the way out of it is, to be honest. But one thing is for sure, and that is that none of this is new and should not surprise people. It was quite obvious that a "wave" of massively increased housing prices was moving from West to East Canada over the last decade; and with it, everything else followed. I've always felt bad for people here for awhile now because it's been a train wreck in slow motion, and I don't want to see the local population of people who at the very least keep the culture going - all the small shops, the flower shops, the barista/coffee/tea shops, the random used book stores, the impromptu concert events that happen, and so on be displaced and removed from the city they know and contribute to. My perennial question is always, "How can they afford to live where they work, with prices like these?" Putin/Russia didn't cause this, and people blaming the inflationary boogeyman on the bombing of some Ukranian village that the Western world can't even agree on how to spell/pronounce, is not the reason.
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