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Heya Turkish guy here, some points you mention I agree (our secularism, administration), but I found your lobbying approach for cheering for war and weapons qu

Heya Turkish guy here, some points you mention I agree (our secularism, administration), but I found your lobbying approach for cheering for war and weapons quite disturbing, I love Greek people, we have many commons and differences, when I share my projects or work publicly I always think there is many otherside think like me, peaceful minds concentrated on development rather than destruction. Elections are due we will show our response to that administration as well. Hope we will have better discussions then.

nspattak 4y ago
Elections are coming in Greece as well. Politicians on either side of the aegean have failed their people misserably and are apparently turning to nationalism/hatred for political gain. I wish this is understood by both countries (yet I do not expect it...)
- planetis 4y ago
  > I wish this is understood by both countries (yet I do not expect it...) In the Greek side there hasn't been a single populist "call to arms" by any political party. Greece is not the one that would start an incident, since it's against it's interests and it's advised to remain calm by the media. Recently the Greek PM responded to Erdogan's previous petty statements [1] with just "we are neighbours, we always need to talk, and we always want to keep channels of communication open". Overall their responses in the media are mild and far from nationalistic. [1]: https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-erdogan-says-greek-pm-mitsotakis-no-longer-exists-him-2022-05-23/ https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-erdogan-says-greek-pm-... [2]: https://www.amna.gr/en/article/649386/PM-Mitsotakis-If-Erdogan-thinks-I-will-not-defend-Greeces-soveign-rights--then-hes-wrong https://www.amna.gr/en/article/649386/PM-Mitsotakis-If-Erdog...
- planetis 4y ago
  The previous night's outrageous addressing to the Greek people from Erdogan in Greek, where he threatened for a disaster like the burning of Smyrna a century ago. [1]: https://twitter.com/RTErdogan/status/1534954757713960962 https://twitter.com/RTErdogan/status/1534954757713960962
- watwut 4y ago
  It does not seem like symmetrical both sides situation to me to be honest.
planetis 4y ago
(Original message re-posted to prove there is no cheering for war from my side, that's false information): Contrast this to the present day, where Turkish president, due to the worsening economy and the June 2023 elections and the successful diplomatic trip of his Greek counterpart to the US, has went on a sickening game of war threats on a daily basis. A map of the chronic Turkish revisionism has been released by the Greek foreign ministry in an attempt to counter his warmongering with logical arguments. NATO should see who is tripping the alliance, acting on the benefit of Russia ...and finally accept that Turkey has become the new Iran, it's views no longer aligns with the West. A strong army is a must, and after a decade of economic crisis, Greece has a lot of catching up to do. [1]: https://twitter.com/GreeceMFA/status/1534867984476516354 https://twitter.com/GreeceMFA/status/1534867984476516354

nspattak 4y ago

Elections are coming in Greece as well. Politicians on either side of the aegean have failed their people misserably and are apparently turning to nationalism/hatred for political gain. I wish this is understood by both countries (yet I do not expect it...)

planetis 4y ago
> I wish this is understood by both countries (yet I do not expect it...) In the Greek side there hasn't been a single populist "call to arms" by any political party. Greece is not the one that would start an incident, since it's against it's interests and it's advised to remain calm by the media. Recently the Greek PM responded to Erdogan's previous petty statements [1] with just "we are neighbours, we always need to talk, and we always want to keep channels of communication open". Overall their responses in the media are mild and far from nationalistic. [1]: https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-erdogan-says-greek-pm-mitsotakis-no-longer-exists-him-2022-05-23/ https://www.reuters.com/world/turkeys-erdogan-says-greek-pm-... [2]: https://www.amna.gr/en/article/649386/PM-Mitsotakis-If-Erdogan-thinks-I-will-not-defend-Greeces-soveign-rights--then-hes-wrong https://www.amna.gr/en/article/649386/PM-Mitsotakis-If-Erdog...
planetis 4y ago
The previous night's outrageous addressing to the Greek people from Erdogan in Greek, where he threatened for a disaster like the burning of Smyrna a century ago. [1]: https://twitter.com/RTErdogan/status/1534954757713960962 https://twitter.com/RTErdogan/status/1534954757713960962
watwut 4y ago
It does not seem like symmetrical both sides situation to me to be honest.

planetis 4y ago

(Original message re-posted to prove there is no cheering for war from my side, that's false information): Contrast this to the present day, where Turkish president, due to the worsening economy and the June 2023 elections and the successful diplomatic trip of his Greek counterpart to the US, has went on a sickening game of war threats on a daily basis. A map of the chronic Turkish revisionism has been released by the Greek foreign ministry in an attempt to counter his warmongering with logical arguments. NATO should see who is tripping the alliance, acting on the benefit of Russia ...and finally accept that Turkey has become the new Iran, it's views no longer aligns with the West. A strong army is a must, and after a decade of economic crisis, Greece has a lot of catching up to do. [1]: https://twitter.com/GreeceMFA/status/1534867984476516354 https://twitter.com/GreeceMFA/status/1534867984476516354