I see that more as such people pretending to be productive, when they aren't. Some examples are managers in all kinds of constant meetings, as if that is work

I see that more as such people pretending to be productive, when they aren't. Some examples are managers in all kinds of constant meetings, as if that is work by itself, versus actual outcomes. Related to that, are people you see working excessive hours and give all kinds of reasons for it, but the actual output is very little or doesn't justify the extra hours. People who are faking productivity can be quite hard to spot, because often they look busy. If others become suspicious and try to confront them or try to detangle the spaghetti of inefficient practices, there is often a flood of excuses and illogic. Not necessarily just with the workers, but also with supervisors or managers, who are hiding that they don't know or are not sure about what they are doing.