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It really bothers me how people foam at the mouth about this when there is far more direct evidence of much worse abuses in Israel/Palestine than Xinjiang, but

It really bothers me how people foam at the mouth about this when there is far more direct evidence of much worse abuses in Israel/Palestine than Xinjiang, but somehow Xinjiang is the next holocaust and China is Nazi Germany. CIA and State Department propaganda at work.

lpcvoid 4y ago
Give me a break. Just because people point out that something is not good, it isn't invalid because worse things exist. Take off the conspiracy hat.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  Oh but you can absolutely see hypocrisy in what people care about by what they spend most of their time discussing. There is no conspiracy hat, it's just obvious.
- colordrops 4y ago
  You need to lay off yourself. People didn't just point out that something is not good. They are claiming that it's the same as Nazi Germany and that you shouldn't even be allowed to discuss it or protest.
yorwba 4y ago
In response to your other comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31691085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31691085 claiming that "No concrete evidence has ever been released that there is mass incarceration in Xinjiang." https://web.archive.org/web/20180921114505/http://www.xj.jcy.gov.cn/jwgk/gzbg/201804/t20180405_2176419.shtml https://web.archive.org/web/20180921114505/http://www.xj.jcy... > 五年来，全区检察机关共批准逮捕各类刑事犯罪嫌疑人330918人 https://web.archive.org/web/20210811151913/https://www.spp.gov.cn/spp/gzbg/201803/t20180325_372171.shtml https://web.archive.org/web/20210811151913/https://www.spp.g... > 2013年至2017年，全国检察机关共批捕各类刑事犯罪嫌疑人453.1万人 Of 4.5 million arrests in all of China during five years, more than 7% were in Xinjiang according to Chinese government sources, even though less than 2% of the population live there. If you focus on 2017 alone, more than 20% of all arrests were in Xinjiang https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/criminal-arrests-in-xinjiang-account-for-21-of-chinas-total-in-2017/ https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/criminal-arrests-in-xinjiang-a...
- colordrops 4y ago
  Yes, but those stats are not too different from black people in the US. Is the US a Nazi country executing genocide? Read the rest of my other comment. I said that bad things were happening there, but that it's being exaggerated. You seem to agree.
- colordrops 4y ago
  Can't edit my original comment, but I looked it up. Out of 10 million arrests in the US, 2.5 million are black, or 25%, which is double their population. The US also has both the highest prison population in total, and per capita. You better be calling this a genocide of blacks if you aren't a total hypocrite.
  - yorwba 4y ago
    No, I'd call it mass incarceration. But good on you for looking it up. Hopefully you'll also remember to look up stuff about China before commenting in the future.

lpcvoid 4y ago

Give me a break. Just because people point out that something is not good, it isn't invalid because worse things exist. Take off the conspiracy hat.

whimsicalism 4y ago
Oh but you can absolutely see hypocrisy in what people care about by what they spend most of their time discussing. There is no conspiracy hat, it's just obvious.
colordrops 4y ago
You need to lay off yourself. People didn't just point out that something is not good. They are claiming that it's the same as Nazi Germany and that you shouldn't even be allowed to discuss it or protest.

yorwba 4y ago

In response to your other comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31691085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31691085 claiming that "No concrete evidence has ever been released that there is mass incarceration in Xinjiang." https://web.archive.org/web/20180921114505/http://www.xj.jcy.gov.cn/jwgk/gzbg/201804/t20180405_2176419.shtml https://web.archive.org/web/20180921114505/http://www.xj.jcy... > 五年来，全区检察机关共批准逮捕各类刑事犯罪嫌疑人330918人 https://web.archive.org/web/20210811151913/https://www.spp.gov.cn/spp/gzbg/201803/t20180325_372171.shtml https://web.archive.org/web/20210811151913/https://www.spp.g... > 2013年至2017年，全国检察机关共批捕各类刑事犯罪嫌疑人453.1万人 Of 4.5 million arrests in all of China during five years, more than 7% were in Xinjiang according to Chinese government sources, even though less than 2% of the population live there. If you focus on 2017 alone, more than 20% of all arrests were in Xinjiang https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/criminal-arrests-in-xinjiang-account-for-21-of-chinas-total-in-2017/ https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/criminal-arrests-in-xinjiang-a...

colordrops 4y ago
Yes, but those stats are not too different from black people in the US. Is the US a Nazi country executing genocide? Read the rest of my other comment. I said that bad things were happening there, but that it's being exaggerated. You seem to agree.
colordrops 4y ago
Can't edit my original comment, but I looked it up. Out of 10 million arrests in the US, 2.5 million are black, or 25%, which is double their population. The US also has both the highest prison population in total, and per capita. You better be calling this a genocide of blacks if you aren't a total hypocrite.
- yorwba 4y ago
  No, I'd call it mass incarceration. But good on you for looking it up. Hopefully you'll also remember to look up stuff about China before commenting in the future.