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Makers of ad blockers and browser privacy extensions fear the end is near

36 points by sidcool 4y ago

malermeister 4y ago
This is why everyone should be using Firefox, the only viable open source browser that cares about the open web and privacy.
- DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
  And supports fuck all upcoming web features, disqualifying it as a browser for any serious tinkering.
  - malermeister 4y ago
    Which ones is it lacking? Haven't missed anything personally
    - Crosseye_Jack 4y ago
      https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareCats=all https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareC... For me personally, I would live Web Bluetooth to be supported (However its classed as a experimental technology), however until its supported in Safari iOS I'm not going to loose any sleep over it being missing.
    - rasz 4y ago
      How about sqlite? wouldnt you like to have this as a standard? Mozilla killed it.
  - bayindirh 4y ago
    Like tracking users anywhere and everywhere, and reporting to mothership?
    - DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
      Like @property, which has been around for years now Import-Maps is another very important one.
    - Nextgrid 4y ago
      Unfortunately this is one of the things Firefox actually does very well even when you explicitly disable telemetry.
      - bayindirh 4y ago
        But does it consolidate my data all over the devices and the web, tie to my real world identity, and feed to advertisers?
walrus01 4y ago
Yet another reason to use only Firefox.
- davidgerard 4y ago
  Firefox Mobile supports uBlock Origin too!
chekibreki 4y ago
$title = $title + „for Chrome users“.
- ranguna 4y ago
  Thanks, you saved me a click.
- HWR_14 4y ago
  $title = $title + "for Chromium users". Which is almost everyone. Although does Safari use something similar? I think only FF will be using Manifest v2.
  - TingPing 4y ago
    Safari will continue supporting v2 for now.
    - HWR_14 4y ago
      Including on iOS? I thought that they never supported v2 on iOS and only moved to something similar to v3.
      - lapcat 4y ago
        "The most widely noted change in Mv3 – and there are many that have significant implications – is the removal of the blocking version of the webRequest API, which is being replaced by an API called declarativeNetRequest." Safari supports and will continue to support v2, but Safari never supported blocking webRequest.
        HWR_14 4y ago
        Thanks. That aligns with my fuzzier understanding.
      - TingPing 4y ago
        It sounds like they don't support persistent background pages, for power usage reasons probably, so extensions have to adopt to that.
shanehoban 4y ago
How many billions in profit is enough? If adblockers stop working in Chrome, people (me included) are still not going to see ads, and we won't be using Chrome either. I get that business becomes gamified to try and squeeze the most profit as possible. It happens because the big wigs only look at the numbers, and it's not anyone in particulars fault. I can imagine a new manager of sorts trying to make a name for themselves in a big company such as Google, suggesting that stopping ad blockers could make X Million $ more per year and they might even get a promotion for it.

36 points by sidcool 4y ago

This is why everyone should be using Firefox, the only viable open source browser that cares about the open web and privacy.

DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
And supports fuck all upcoming web features, disqualifying it as a browser for any serious tinkering.
- malermeister 4y ago
  Which ones is it lacking? Haven't missed anything personally
  - Crosseye_Jack 4y ago
    https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareCats=all https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareC... For me personally, I would live Web Bluetooth to be supported (However its classed as a experimental technology), however until its supported in Safari iOS I'm not going to loose any sleep over it being missing.
  - rasz 4y ago
    How about sqlite? wouldnt you like to have this as a standard? Mozilla killed it.
- bayindirh 4y ago
  Like tracking users anywhere and everywhere, and reporting to mothership?
  - DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
    Like @property, which has been around for years now Import-Maps is another very important one.
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    Unfortunately this is one of the things Firefox actually does very well even when you explicitly disable telemetry.
    - bayindirh 4y ago
      But does it consolidate my data all over the devices and the web, tie to my real world identity, and feed to advertisers?

walrus01 4y ago

Yet another reason to use only Firefox.

davidgerard 4y ago
Firefox Mobile supports uBlock Origin too!

chekibreki 4y ago

$title = $title + „for Chrome users“.

ranguna 4y ago
Thanks, you saved me a click.
HWR_14 4y ago
$title = $title + "for Chromium users". Which is almost everyone. Although does Safari use something similar? I think only FF will be using Manifest v2.
- TingPing 4y ago
  Safari will continue supporting v2 for now.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    Including on iOS? I thought that they never supported v2 on iOS and only moved to something similar to v3.
    - lapcat 4y ago
      "The most widely noted change in Mv3 – and there are many that have significant implications – is the removal of the blocking version of the webRequest API, which is being replaced by an API called declarativeNetRequest." Safari supports and will continue to support v2, but Safari never supported blocking webRequest.
      - HWR_14 4y ago
        Thanks. That aligns with my fuzzier understanding.
    - TingPing 4y ago
      It sounds like they don't support persistent background pages, for power usage reasons probably, so extensions have to adopt to that.

shanehoban 4y ago

How many billions in profit is enough? If adblockers stop working in Chrome, people (me included) are still not going to see ads, and we won't be using Chrome either. I get that business becomes gamified to try and squeeze the most profit as possible. It happens because the big wigs only look at the numbers, and it's not anyone in particulars fault. I can imagine a new manager of sorts trying to make a name for themselves in a big company such as Google, suggesting that stopping ad blockers could make X Million $ more per year and they might even get a promotion for it.