I mean, I like vi/vim, it just has a big learning curve that's none too helpful, but once you get going it's smooth. DF is like that too, every command is basi

I mean, I like vi/vim, it just has a big learning curve that's none too helpful, but once you get going it's smooth. DF is like that too, every command is basically a single keystroke. Every menu option has some key assigned. So once you know what you're doing it's not too hard to do a lot of complicated things quickly, but you may have to study to understand what you should even be doing. It's kind of up to you to create the whole fortress from nothing and it's not always clear what you need to do to, say, make soap. You have to set up (and learn) entire production chains for items, get people to do the labor, etc.