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> No they’re not. A few are trying to regulate their citizens traveling to other states to get abortions. Impressive gymnastics.

rayiner 4y ago
A US citizen in Egypt can be prosecuted under the FCPA for paying a business related bribe in Egypt. Would you say that’s closer to “trying to regulate business practices in other countries” or “trying to regulate the conduct of their own citizens?”
- InefficientRed 4y ago
  US states are not sovereign nations, and the US constitution speaks very specifically to both interstate travel and interstate commerce.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    That goes to whether the regulation is permissible or not. We are talking about how to characterize the regulation. Regulating one’s own citizens while they are traveling elsewhere is different than trying to regulate a different state.
    - InefficientRed 4y ago
      > That goes to whether the regulation is permissible or not. We are talking about how to characterize the regulation. I don't know what hair you're trying to split here, but the gymnastics are getting even more imporessive. > Regulating one’s own citizens while they are traveling elsewhere is different than trying to regulate a different state. Missouri's law, for example, would allow Missouri citizens to sue out-of-state physicians who perform an abortion on a Missourian but have never lived, set foot in, or done business in Missouri. Looking forward to the incoming sequence of twists and flips.
      - dang 4y ago
        Can you please omit swipes and name-calling from your posts here? especially on divisive topics and regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. This topic generates strong feelings for obvious and legitimate reasons. But that makes it more important (not less) to follow the site guidelines. That's why we added this one: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

rayiner 4y ago

A US citizen in Egypt can be prosecuted under the FCPA for paying a business related bribe in Egypt. Would you say that’s closer to “trying to regulate business practices in other countries” or “trying to regulate the conduct of their own citizens?”

InefficientRed 4y ago
US states are not sovereign nations, and the US constitution speaks very specifically to both interstate travel and interstate commerce.
- rayiner 4y ago
  That goes to whether the regulation is permissible or not. We are talking about how to characterize the regulation. Regulating one’s own citizens while they are traveling elsewhere is different than trying to regulate a different state.
  - InefficientRed 4y ago
    > That goes to whether the regulation is permissible or not. We are talking about how to characterize the regulation. I don't know what hair you're trying to split here, but the gymnastics are getting even more imporessive. > Regulating one’s own citizens while they are traveling elsewhere is different than trying to regulate a different state. Missouri's law, for example, would allow Missouri citizens to sue out-of-state physicians who perform an abortion on a Missourian but have never lived, set foot in, or done business in Missouri. Looking forward to the incoming sequence of twists and flips.
    - dang 4y ago
      Can you please omit swipes and name-calling from your posts here? especially on divisive topics and regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. This topic generates strong feelings for obvious and legitimate reasons. But that makes it more important (not less) to follow the site guidelines. That's why we added this one: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.