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Nintendo should be ashamed.

danuker 4y ago
They probably lobbied for the law. I know I'm boycotting them.
bogwog 4y ago
Nintendo really is extra nasty with these types of things. Sometime last year they sent a 27 year old man to prison for trying to sell modified save files for Breath of the Wild. That is, a prison sentence for selling cheats for a single player video game.
- AussieWog93 4y ago
  This sounded fishy to me, so I checked the articles written about it. A guy was arrested, but there is nothing to suggest he was ever sent to prison (the thing you specifically emphasised and repeated).
  - bombcar 4y ago
    People never bother fact checking internet rage, so thank you for that.
  - falcolas 4y ago
    If you’re arrested, you’re spending at least some time in prison, until bail can be arranged.
    - kelnos 4y ago
      No, you're spending time in jail, which is still not great, but is absolutely not the same thing. Prison means that you've been convicted of a crime and put away, which is a pretty important distinction. (This is a US-centric definition; apologies if this doesn't match your jurisdiction.)
      - Tabular-Iceberg 4y ago
        Don’t be pedantic, they are synonymous. In American English there is a convention where different terms are preferred for different types, but even then a jail is not just pre-trial. [1] I think the main point of the parent was the problem of societies that like to start inflicting punishment on people accused of crimes even before they are sentenced, as a response to the great grandparent which talked specifically about being sentenced. 1. https://www.expertlaw.com/library/criminal-law/what-difference-between-jail-and-prison https://www.expertlaw.com/library/criminal-law/what-differen...
        falcolas 4y ago
        Yes, this. They'll even consider time spent in "jail" as part of your sentence. There are many folks who have been convicted and not spent any further time in jail because of "time served" waiting to be convicted. And if they hadn't been convicted? Their problem, apparently.
        kelnos 4y ago
        > They'll even consider time spent in "jail" as part of your sentence. True, but kinda irrelevant to the point being made? @bogwog specifically claimed that Nintendo's actions earned a 27-year-old a "prison sentence" (their words, not mine). That implies a trial, conviction, and sentence. @AussieWog93, when fact-checking, was clearly skeptical of the conviction and sentencing aspect: "sent to prison" would be a pretty unusual thing to say when talking about being arrested and put in jail pre-trial. The point is that someone said, in effect, "Nintendo got someone convicted and sent to prison". Someone else said "Hmm, I looked into this and couldn't find any evidence that it went that far". Yes, the guy may have spent some time in jail pre-trial (assuming there even was a trial; it's possible charges were dropped), and that's still super shitty, but it is orders of magnitude less shitty than being convicted of a crime and sentenced to a prison term.
        kelnos 4y ago
        I'm not being pedantic. The person higher up in the thread claimed that they looked into this and found "there is nothing to suggest he was ever sent to prison". Since, as someone upthread correctly pointed out, people often spend time incarcerated pre-trial for whatever reasons, the "jail" vs. "prison" distinction is pretty important here. Especially considering that the full phrase "sent to prison" is usually used to imply a conviction and sentence, not pre-trial detainment. Definitions and word use are important! Frankly this entire subthread is silly and kinda pointless, though...
    - AussieWog93 4y ago
      At least in Australia, you won't usually be remanded for a minor offence.
  - bogwog 4y ago
    > A guy was arrested, but there is nothing to suggest he was ever sent to prison (the thing you specifically emphasised and repeated). That's just splitting hairs over some word choice. Replace the word "prison" with "jail" if you must, but it doesn't change what I was saying: Nintendo sent someone to jail for selling cheats for a single player game. To jail! (emphasized and repeated)
    - AussieWog93 4y ago
      >Nintendo sent someone to jail for selling cheats for a single player game. To jail! (emphasized and repeated) No, it's not splitting hairs. He was arrested. At least where I'm from, that basically means being escorted to a police station and questioned. Perhaps you know some specifics about the Japanese legal system that I don't, and everyone over there that is arrested spends a week in jail waiting to be heard by a magistrate. But as far as I can tell, there's nothing to even suggest that he was charged.
malka 4y ago
That is why I only play Nintendo game on emulator. I love their game, but I deeply hate them. A little bit like Disney movies. I only watch them if doing so does not give money to Disney.

They probably lobbied for the law. I know I'm boycotting them.

Nintendo really is extra nasty with these types of things. Sometime last year they sent a 27 year old man to prison for trying to sell modified save files for Breath of the Wild. That is, a prison sentence for selling cheats for a single player video game.

AussieWog93 4y ago
This sounded fishy to me, so I checked the articles written about it. A guy was arrested, but there is nothing to suggest he was ever sent to prison (the thing you specifically emphasised and repeated).
- bombcar 4y ago
  People never bother fact checking internet rage, so thank you for that.
- falcolas 4y ago
  If you’re arrested, you’re spending at least some time in prison, until bail can be arranged.
  - kelnos 4y ago
    No, you're spending time in jail, which is still not great, but is absolutely not the same thing. Prison means that you've been convicted of a crime and put away, which is a pretty important distinction. (This is a US-centric definition; apologies if this doesn't match your jurisdiction.)
    - Tabular-Iceberg 4y ago
      Don’t be pedantic, they are synonymous. In American English there is a convention where different terms are preferred for different types, but even then a jail is not just pre-trial. [1] I think the main point of the parent was the problem of societies that like to start inflicting punishment on people accused of crimes even before they are sentenced, as a response to the great grandparent which talked specifically about being sentenced. 1. https://www.expertlaw.com/library/criminal-law/what-difference-between-jail-and-prison https://www.expertlaw.com/library/criminal-law/what-differen...
      - falcolas 4y ago
        Yes, this. They'll even consider time spent in "jail" as part of your sentence. There are many folks who have been convicted and not spent any further time in jail because of "time served" waiting to be convicted. And if they hadn't been convicted? Their problem, apparently.
        kelnos 4y ago
        > They'll even consider time spent in "jail" as part of your sentence. True, but kinda irrelevant to the point being made? @bogwog specifically claimed that Nintendo's actions earned a 27-year-old a "prison sentence" (their words, not mine). That implies a trial, conviction, and sentence. @AussieWog93, when fact-checking, was clearly skeptical of the conviction and sentencing aspect: "sent to prison" would be a pretty unusual thing to say when talking about being arrested and put in jail pre-trial. The point is that someone said, in effect, "Nintendo got someone convicted and sent to prison". Someone else said "Hmm, I looked into this and couldn't find any evidence that it went that far". Yes, the guy may have spent some time in jail pre-trial (assuming there even was a trial; it's possible charges were dropped), and that's still super shitty, but it is orders of magnitude less shitty than being convicted of a crime and sentenced to a prison term.
      - kelnos 4y ago
        I'm not being pedantic. The person higher up in the thread claimed that they looked into this and found "there is nothing to suggest he was ever sent to prison". Since, as someone upthread correctly pointed out, people often spend time incarcerated pre-trial for whatever reasons, the "jail" vs. "prison" distinction is pretty important here. Especially considering that the full phrase "sent to prison" is usually used to imply a conviction and sentence, not pre-trial detainment. Definitions and word use are important! Frankly this entire subthread is silly and kinda pointless, though...
  - AussieWog93 4y ago
    At least in Australia, you won't usually be remanded for a minor offence.
- bogwog 4y ago
  > A guy was arrested, but there is nothing to suggest he was ever sent to prison (the thing you specifically emphasised and repeated). That's just splitting hairs over some word choice. Replace the word "prison" with "jail" if you must, but it doesn't change what I was saying: Nintendo sent someone to jail for selling cheats for a single player game. To jail! (emphasized and repeated)
  - AussieWog93 4y ago
    >Nintendo sent someone to jail for selling cheats for a single player game. To jail! (emphasized and repeated) No, it's not splitting hairs. He was arrested. At least where I'm from, that basically means being escorted to a police station and questioned. Perhaps you know some specifics about the Japanese legal system that I don't, and everyone over there that is arrested spends a week in jail waiting to be heard by a magistrate. But as far as I can tell, there's nothing to even suggest that he was charged.

malka 4y ago

That is why I only play Nintendo game on emulator. I love their game, but I deeply hate them. A little bit like Disney movies. I only watch them if doing so does not give money to Disney.