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This notion that every bad decision made by a billionaire is a strategic chest move where they come out on top, is odd. They are billionaires. They will come o

by Clent 4y ago

This notion that every bad decision made by a billionaire is a strategic chest move where they come out on top, is odd. They are billionaires. They will come out on top because at the end of it they will still be a billionaire. Name one billionaire that isn't on top.

krapp 4y ago
>Name one billionaire that isn't on top. Donald Trump.
- cmeacham98 4y ago
  Trump was able to win election for president in the US, one of the most powerful positions in the world. Is that not the ultimate example of a billionaire coming out "on top"?
  - krapp 4y ago
    >Is that not the ultimate example of a billionaire coming out "on top"? If you want to pretend the end of his term and everything afterwards never happened, sure. But as of now, he's the ultimate example of spectacular failure despite his resources. He is still a billionaire, though. I suppose it depends on where you decide the top is.
    - ryandvm 4y ago
      I dunno. It's quite clear that while he may never be president again, there's absolutely no way he's going to A) end up in jail or B) lose a significant amount of his wealth. That's exactly the "coming out on top" the original comment was referring to.
    - cmeacham98 4y ago
      I'm not sure what you mean - of course the end of his term happened, we elect presidents for 4 years in the US, were you expecting him to become a dictator or something? Are you referring to the fact he lost the most recent election? He did pretty good in my opinion, especially considering now notably unpopular he was in his first term. And his opponent got the most votes ever in history (and he was number 2!)
      - kcplate 4y ago
        I was not a fan of the man, certainly didn’t vote for him, but there is little doubt that the man is still immensely popular and frankly feared by the democrats because of his popularity and the decline in popularity of President Biden.
      - dave5104 4y ago
        I assume the person you're responding to is referring to the fact that Trump lost and ended up inciting an insurrection against the federal government in an attempt to prevent his opponent from taking power. That's not really ending on a good note.
        pessimizer 4y ago
        It's not failure. The guy went from being a joke target game show host to POTUS. If you ask the Democrats and establishment Republicans, he was the most important President in recent history (although they view this negatively.) The fallout from his election snowballed to the level that it's threatening a world war, and he's the obvious favorite for the next presidency. It's not failure.
        rvz 4y ago
        It seems that there is a level of eternal embarrassment the media, doubters, etc have felt since when they failed to stop the Trump presidency in 2016. They made sure that they covered and did anything they could to stop him getting re-elected in 2020 which after losing lead to Jan 6th. Even after the acquittal, he is yet again still talked about running once again and did not run into another war. I would have expected the media, and editors to have ignored him by now, but the fact they are finding it difficult to do so tells us that they are taking his possiblity of re-election seriously such that they know he could do it again. Indeed, its not failure at all.
        wolverine876 4y ago
        Not from your perspective or mine. But Trump retains a lot of power, controlling one of the two major parties, the leading news organization, a large movement, and plenty of assets.
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krapp 4y ago

>Name one billionaire that isn't on top. Donald Trump.

cmeacham98 4y ago
Trump was able to win election for president in the US, one of the most powerful positions in the world. Is that not the ultimate example of a billionaire coming out "on top"?
- krapp 4y ago
  >Is that not the ultimate example of a billionaire coming out "on top"? If you want to pretend the end of his term and everything afterwards never happened, sure. But as of now, he's the ultimate example of spectacular failure despite his resources. He is still a billionaire, though. I suppose it depends on where you decide the top is.
  - ryandvm 4y ago
    I dunno. It's quite clear that while he may never be president again, there's absolutely no way he's going to A) end up in jail or B) lose a significant amount of his wealth. That's exactly the "coming out on top" the original comment was referring to.
  - cmeacham98 4y ago
    I'm not sure what you mean - of course the end of his term happened, we elect presidents for 4 years in the US, were you expecting him to become a dictator or something? Are you referring to the fact he lost the most recent election? He did pretty good in my opinion, especially considering now notably unpopular he was in his first term. And his opponent got the most votes ever in history (and he was number 2!)
    - kcplate 4y ago
      I was not a fan of the man, certainly didn’t vote for him, but there is little doubt that the man is still immensely popular and frankly feared by the democrats because of his popularity and the decline in popularity of President Biden.
    - dave5104 4y ago
      I assume the person you're responding to is referring to the fact that Trump lost and ended up inciting an insurrection against the federal government in an attempt to prevent his opponent from taking power. That's not really ending on a good note.
      - pessimizer 4y ago
        It's not failure. The guy went from being a joke target game show host to POTUS. If you ask the Democrats and establishment Republicans, he was the most important President in recent history (although they view this negatively.) The fallout from his election snowballed to the level that it's threatening a world war, and he's the obvious favorite for the next presidency. It's not failure.
        rvz 4y ago
        It seems that there is a level of eternal embarrassment the media, doubters, etc have felt since when they failed to stop the Trump presidency in 2016. They made sure that they covered and did anything they could to stop him getting re-elected in 2020 which after losing lead to Jan 6th. Even after the acquittal, he is yet again still talked about running once again and did not run into another war. I would have expected the media, and editors to have ignored him by now, but the fact they are finding it difficult to do so tells us that they are taking his possiblity of re-election seriously such that they know he could do it again. Indeed, its not failure at all.
      - wolverine876 4y ago
        Not from your perspective or mine. But Trump retains a lot of power, controlling one of the two major parties, the leading news organization, a large movement, and plenty of assets.
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