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Why is everyone on this planet so greedy?

by Victerius 4y ago

delabay 4y ago
In this life you can be selfish, stupid or a burden. Selfishness creates the most value in the world.
- toolz 4y ago
  It's truly amazing how many people spend their entire lives pushing for higher salaries than they need and seeing the immense benefits of competing in the economy, but somehow fall back to the conclusion that greed (the only thing that has improved their life) is terrible. The car you drive, the central AC you enjoy, the delivery food you'll eat this week? All of that is extreme luxury and unnecessary by someone else's standards.
  - tehlike 4y ago
    Pushing for high salaries is doing work and getting paid for it. Grift? not so much. There's difference. There's no shame in working super hard and making lots of money. but sadly, not all hard work is equal.
    - toolz 4y ago
      I agree there's certainly a difference, but what you might consider grifting someone else might consider quite legitimate. e.g. I think essential oils and energy crystals are grifting, but many people find a lot of value in those things and I would never want to suggest I know better what they should spend their own money. They probably would see the money I spend on things like tech toys equally as stupid (and they might not be wrong LOL).
      - tehlike 4y ago
        Is ponzi a legitimate thing? Early backers definitely think so! I guess this is what I'm alluding to. Crypto is fun, but most things are obscure ponzis
        toolz 4y ago
        Someone using something unethically does not make the thing being used unethical. Encrypted communication is a great example of this...how many people circumvent local laws with encrypted communication in order to reveal crimes against humanity? There have always been unethical laws somewhere in the world as long as governed societies have existed.
        tehlike 4y ago
        That's not even what i said. I said the other direction. Ponzis are unethical, and wrong, and it always should be regardless of who is doing it and whether someone is benefiting from it. I find crypto useful and innovative. I find making money through ponzis disguised as innovation wrong, they happen to be using crypto. That's what Luna was.
- hansoolo 4y ago
  Such a bullshit
stemlord 4y ago
Because it pays in a big way, unfortunately. Not enough accountability/consequence and being poor is extremely painful
lilyball 4y ago
Confirmation bias. You only hear about the people doing greedy shit. The people who aren't being greedy don't usually make the news.
- rvz 4y ago
  Precisely. It is what you usually see pushed by critics like web3isgoinggreat, Stephen Diehl (CTO of blockchain startup Adjoint), and many more to hype up the uninformed for their ultimate goal of banning all of them, which isn't realistic; otherwise it would have happened along time ago. While we have seen a scammer like Do Kwon getting reported to the authorities by his on employees to the SEC, it proves that the regulators are not going to sit around and let him get away with it. That is the whole point of why crypto regulations are coming, just like they did for regulating ICOs in 2018. The same is true when one tries to 'hide' their funds using a blockchain with a transparent ledger or if they are trying to cash out stolen funds to exchanges which regulations have introduced KYC, AML checks on them if the hackers / scammers try to send the hacked funds to custodial wallets. So in reality, it is getting harder for scammers and criminals to actually cash out the funds and anyone can still technically trace the transactions on these blockchains.
  - lilyball 4y ago
    Oh no, web3 is almost purely greed. The entire point is to financialize everything possible and try to make money off of it. It's a truly horrific idea, one that enshrines "those with money make the rules" even moreseo than capitalism does.
sumy23 4y ago
What should we be focusing on instead? I remember a story from The Unwomanly Face of War where a woman, so enthralled with Communism, sends her own young daughter to deliver a bomb to a house being used by German officers. She was happy to sacrifice her daughter for communism in this way. When I read that, I couldn't believe it. The thought of believing something with so much conviction is completely foreign to me. I was jealous in a way. But for me, earthly pleasures are all I have to focus on.
- jmspring 4y ago
  This last statement is what concerns me a great deal about the MAGA / Q movement. Absolute belief and almost deification of a movement/individual that will replace thought and reason.
Consultant32452 4y ago
Evolution and scarce resources. We are barely evolved apes.
MockObject 4y ago
"Everyone" including all the other lifeforms, as well. It's the motivation that powers the biosphere itself.

Why is everyone on this planet so greedy?

delabay 4y ago

In this life you can be selfish, stupid or a burden. Selfishness creates the most value in the world.

toolz 4y ago
It's truly amazing how many people spend their entire lives pushing for higher salaries than they need and seeing the immense benefits of competing in the economy, but somehow fall back to the conclusion that greed (the only thing that has improved their life) is terrible. The car you drive, the central AC you enjoy, the delivery food you'll eat this week? All of that is extreme luxury and unnecessary by someone else's standards.
- tehlike 4y ago
  Pushing for high salaries is doing work and getting paid for it. Grift? not so much. There's difference. There's no shame in working super hard and making lots of money. but sadly, not all hard work is equal.
  - toolz 4y ago
    I agree there's certainly a difference, but what you might consider grifting someone else might consider quite legitimate. e.g. I think essential oils and energy crystals are grifting, but many people find a lot of value in those things and I would never want to suggest I know better what they should spend their own money. They probably would see the money I spend on things like tech toys equally as stupid (and they might not be wrong LOL).
    - tehlike 4y ago
      Is ponzi a legitimate thing? Early backers definitely think so! I guess this is what I'm alluding to. Crypto is fun, but most things are obscure ponzis
      - toolz 4y ago
        Someone using something unethically does not make the thing being used unethical. Encrypted communication is a great example of this...how many people circumvent local laws with encrypted communication in order to reveal crimes against humanity? There have always been unethical laws somewhere in the world as long as governed societies have existed.
        tehlike 4y ago
        That's not even what i said. I said the other direction. Ponzis are unethical, and wrong, and it always should be regardless of who is doing it and whether someone is benefiting from it. I find crypto useful and innovative. I find making money through ponzis disguised as innovation wrong, they happen to be using crypto. That's what Luna was.
hansoolo 4y ago
Such a bullshit

stemlord 4y ago

Because it pays in a big way, unfortunately. Not enough accountability/consequence and being poor is extremely painful

lilyball 4y ago

Confirmation bias. You only hear about the people doing greedy shit. The people who aren't being greedy don't usually make the news.

rvz 4y ago
Precisely. It is what you usually see pushed by critics like web3isgoinggreat, Stephen Diehl (CTO of blockchain startup Adjoint), and many more to hype up the uninformed for their ultimate goal of banning all of them, which isn't realistic; otherwise it would have happened along time ago. While we have seen a scammer like Do Kwon getting reported to the authorities by his on employees to the SEC, it proves that the regulators are not going to sit around and let him get away with it. That is the whole point of why crypto regulations are coming, just like they did for regulating ICOs in 2018. The same is true when one tries to 'hide' their funds using a blockchain with a transparent ledger or if they are trying to cash out stolen funds to exchanges which regulations have introduced KYC, AML checks on them if the hackers / scammers try to send the hacked funds to custodial wallets. So in reality, it is getting harder for scammers and criminals to actually cash out the funds and anyone can still technically trace the transactions on these blockchains.
- lilyball 4y ago
  Oh no, web3 is almost purely greed. The entire point is to financialize everything possible and try to make money off of it. It's a truly horrific idea, one that enshrines "those with money make the rules" even moreseo than capitalism does.

sumy23 4y ago

What should we be focusing on instead? I remember a story from The Unwomanly Face of War where a woman, so enthralled with Communism, sends her own young daughter to deliver a bomb to a house being used by German officers. She was happy to sacrifice her daughter for communism in this way. When I read that, I couldn't believe it. The thought of believing something with so much conviction is completely foreign to me. I was jealous in a way. But for me, earthly pleasures are all I have to focus on.

jmspring 4y ago
This last statement is what concerns me a great deal about the MAGA / Q movement. Absolute belief and almost deification of a movement/individual that will replace thought and reason.

Consultant32452 4y ago

Evolution and scarce resources. We are barely evolved apes.

MockObject 4y ago

"Everyone" including all the other lifeforms, as well. It's the motivation that powers the biosphere itself.