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I mean - only if the state residents revoked their citizenship. As a US citizen you enjoy the pleasure of paying federal taxes no matter where in the world you

by munk-a 4y ago

I mean - only if the state residents revoked their citizenship. As a US citizen you enjoy the pleasure of paying federal taxes no matter where in the world you live.

s1artibartfast 4y ago
While generally true, this is on income over 110K and you can get a US tax credit for foreign taxes payed. It is strange that the US is one of the only countries in the world to tax citizens abroad.
krapp 4y ago
Secession from the United States by definition means a revocation of citizenship. They're no longer a state, they're a nation that just happens to share landmass with the US, like Canada and Mexico, and their people are no longer American citizens, but citizens of that nation.
- munk-a 4y ago
  Would that be all citizens? Using Florida as an example if they seceded would all current Florida residents lose their US citizenship? What about people visiting Florida - or those with multiple homes (snow birds etc...)? What if you personally object to the secession - would the US allow you to retain your citizenship and "immigrate" to Georgia? And, what if Florida refused to recognize a class of residents as new citizens? What would happen to all the federal prisoners located in Florida when secession happened - Florida probably doesn't want to adopt a large population of incarcerated Americans, they'd probably try to give them back to America somehow - ditto for incarcerated Floridians being held outside the state - though Florida might not want them back anyways. I think, at EOD, the US would probably offer continued US citizenship to any Florida residents who refused to accept Florida citizenship - which would likely result in Florida being a majority expat country, since, would you rather throw your personal future in with some new secessionist government or an established government that might end up eating Florida in a few weeks anyways?

by munk-a 4y ago

I mean - only if the state residents revoked their citizenship. As a US citizen you enjoy the pleasure of paying federal taxes no matter where in the world you live.

s1artibartfast 4y ago

While generally true, this is on income over 110K and you can get a US tax credit for foreign taxes payed. It is strange that the US is one of the only countries in the world to tax citizens abroad.

krapp 4y ago

Secession from the United States by definition means a revocation of citizenship. They're no longer a state, they're a nation that just happens to share landmass with the US, like Canada and Mexico, and their people are no longer American citizens, but citizens of that nation.

munk-a 4y ago
Would that be all citizens? Using Florida as an example if they seceded would all current Florida residents lose their US citizenship? What about people visiting Florida - or those with multiple homes (snow birds etc...)? What if you personally object to the secession - would the US allow you to retain your citizenship and "immigrate" to Georgia? And, what if Florida refused to recognize a class of residents as new citizens? What would happen to all the federal prisoners located in Florida when secession happened - Florida probably doesn't want to adopt a large population of incarcerated Americans, they'd probably try to give them back to America somehow - ditto for incarcerated Floridians being held outside the state - though Florida might not want them back anyways. I think, at EOD, the US would probably offer continued US citizenship to any Florida residents who refused to accept Florida citizenship - which would likely result in Florida being a majority expat country, since, would you rather throw your personal future in with some new secessionist government or an established government that might end up eating Florida in a few weeks anyways?