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It looks like the most recent test did not convince people, so I doubt this will be proved either way today. In the past, they've not been very careful with me

by cbr 15y ago

It looks like the most recent test did not convince people, so I doubt this will be proved either way today. In the past, they've not been very careful with measurements: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-controversial-energy-generating-lacking-credibility-video.html http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-controversial-energy-gen...

ck2 15y ago
Is this "motorola solutions" actually part of the real Motorola? http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg52921.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg52921.htm...
- mindcrime 15y ago
  Looks like "Motorola Solutions" is the other half - besides "Motorola Mobility" (the bit that Google is buying) - of the old Motorola, Inc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Solutions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Solutions Not so sure about this "Bob Higgins" though. I didn't find a Bob Higgins at Motorola on LinkedIn (granted, it was a quick and fairly superficial search). Edit: Ok, upon further review, I did find a Bob Higgins @ Motorola, so he's real at least. Hard to say much beyond that... What I do find suspicious though, is this: Take a look at the results from this search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bob+higgins+motorola&oq=bob+higgins+motorola http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bob+higgins+motorol... and look at all the domain names on the first page. ecatinfo.com ecatreviews.com ecatfusion.com buyecat.com ecathome.com ecatexport.com energycatalyzernews.com rossireactor.com rossigenerator.com ecatnews.com I mean, somebody has really poured a lot of energy into promoting this thing, and it hasn't even been properly verified yet? This comes off as a bit scammy to me.
  - cbr 15y ago
    Or they're optimistic, and want to be in a good position to capitalize on it if it works?
    - mindcrime 15y ago
      The cynic in me finds that hard to swallow, but I guess it's possible. Something about this just feels "off" somehow.
  - russell 15y ago
    Multiple domain names are not a red flag. My GF is an artist and she registers a domain name or two every time she thinks of a new project.
    - mindcrime 15y ago
      This is way more than "one or two" domains though. And it's not like they all just point to the same page, which would seem like a fairly normal thing to do. These all appear to have slight variations of the same content (at least relative to this Bob Higgins thing), so that they superficially look like completely independent sites... but I have a hunch they're not really independent at all. This seems like a very conscious and moderately elaborate effort to artificially boost the "buzz" around the e-cat in a sort of spammy way. At least that's the way it looks to me.
Symmetry 15y ago
This was the killer line for me: Further, three scientists calculated that, based on the diameter of the hose, the steam should have an exit velocity of 67, 76, or 137 mph. When Krivit visited Rossi, he took a video of the steam exiting the hose, which he said appears to be flowing at around 10 mph - the expected velocity due to the amount of electrical input energy.

by cbr 15y ago

ck2 15y ago

Is this "motorola solutions" actually part of the real Motorola? http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg52921.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg52921.htm...

mindcrime 15y ago
Looks like "Motorola Solutions" is the other half - besides "Motorola Mobility" (the bit that Google is buying) - of the old Motorola, Inc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Solutions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Solutions Not so sure about this "Bob Higgins" though. I didn't find a Bob Higgins at Motorola on LinkedIn (granted, it was a quick and fairly superficial search). Edit: Ok, upon further review, I did find a Bob Higgins @ Motorola, so he's real at least. Hard to say much beyond that... What I do find suspicious though, is this: Take a look at the results from this search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bob+higgins+motorola&oq=bob+higgins+motorola http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bob+higgins+motorol... and look at all the domain names on the first page. ecatinfo.com ecatreviews.com ecatfusion.com buyecat.com ecathome.com ecatexport.com energycatalyzernews.com rossireactor.com rossigenerator.com ecatnews.com I mean, somebody has really poured a lot of energy into promoting this thing, and it hasn't even been properly verified yet? This comes off as a bit scammy to me.
- cbr 15y ago
  Or they're optimistic, and want to be in a good position to capitalize on it if it works?
  - mindcrime 15y ago
    The cynic in me finds that hard to swallow, but I guess it's possible. Something about this just feels "off" somehow.
- russell 15y ago
  Multiple domain names are not a red flag. My GF is an artist and she registers a domain name or two every time she thinks of a new project.
  - mindcrime 15y ago
    This is way more than "one or two" domains though. And it's not like they all just point to the same page, which would seem like a fairly normal thing to do. These all appear to have slight variations of the same content (at least relative to this Bob Higgins thing), so that they superficially look like completely independent sites... but I have a hunch they're not really independent at all. This seems like a very conscious and moderately elaborate effort to artificially boost the "buzz" around the e-cat in a sort of spammy way. At least that's the way it looks to me.

Symmetry 15y ago

This was the killer line for me: Further, three scientists calculated that, based on the diameter of the hose, the steam should have an exit velocity of 67, 76, or 137 mph. When Krivit visited Rossi, he took a video of the steam exiting the hose, which he said appears to be flowing at around 10 mph - the expected velocity due to the amount of electrical input energy.