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Is there a provider that has "websockets all over the world on edge" ? Right off the bat I am not a target customer because I don't use React. Coming from Vue/S

Is there a provider that has "websockets all over the world on edge" ? Right off the bat I am not a target customer because I don't use React. Coming from Vue/Svelte

guillaumesalles 4y ago
Our code client does not depend on any front-end technology, so you can use it with Svelte or Vue. We have a few examples that use Vue and Svelte here: https://github.com/liveblocks/liveblocks/tree/main/examples https://github.com/liveblocks/liveblocks/tree/main/examples Our most advanced Svelte example is this one : https://pixelart.liveblocks.app/ https://pixelart.liveblocks.app/ If there is enough demand, we'll make an official wrapper for Vue and Svelte! If you're looking for WebSocket without all the state synchronization we provide, there are a few well-known providers like Ably or Pusher.
- upupandup 4y ago
  love it! thanks for the response. So the state synchro is not possible in Ably? Trying to understand what liveblocks does on top of what Ably/Pusher provides
  - guillaumesalles 4y ago
    To summarize the differences between Ably/Pusher and Liveblocks, Ably/Pusher use a centralized Redis to broadcast messages to channels. Liveblocks has tiny isolated servers on the edge for every room. These two different architectures create the following trade-offs: - Ably/Pusher are lower level than Liveblocks. It doesn't have any storage associated to a channel and does not solve any conflicts. - Liveblocks provides API to migrate existing app into collaborative ones via integration with state management library like Redux/Zustand. I have a POC somewhere that try integrate with Vuex, would love to release that at some point! - Ably/Pusher charges per WebSocket message sent. Liveblocks charges per WebSocket connection. Because of that, building features like cursors can become quite expensive on Pusher. - Ably/Pusher lets you connect to multiple channels with a single WebSocket connection (because they're using a centralized Redis IIRC). Liveblocks requires a single WebSocket connection per room. Pusher is good for notifications systems, Liveblocks shines when you need to build an app like Figma or Google spreadsheet. Hope it helps!
jkarneges 4y ago
Fastly announced Fanout today, which is exactly this https://www.fastly.com/blog/unlocking-real-time-at-the-edge https://www.fastly.com/blog/unlocking-real-time-at-the-edge

Is there a provider that has "websockets all over the world on edge" ? Right off the bat I am not a target customer because I don't use React. Coming from Vue/Svelte

guillaumesalles 4y ago

Our code client does not depend on any front-end technology, so you can use it with Svelte or Vue. We have a few examples that use Vue and Svelte here: https://github.com/liveblocks/liveblocks/tree/main/examples https://github.com/liveblocks/liveblocks/tree/main/examples Our most advanced Svelte example is this one : https://pixelart.liveblocks.app/ https://pixelart.liveblocks.app/ If there is enough demand, we'll make an official wrapper for Vue and Svelte! If you're looking for WebSocket without all the state synchronization we provide, there are a few well-known providers like Ably or Pusher.

upupandup 4y ago
love it! thanks for the response. So the state synchro is not possible in Ably? Trying to understand what liveblocks does on top of what Ably/Pusher provides
- guillaumesalles 4y ago
  To summarize the differences between Ably/Pusher and Liveblocks, Ably/Pusher use a centralized Redis to broadcast messages to channels. Liveblocks has tiny isolated servers on the edge for every room. These two different architectures create the following trade-offs: - Ably/Pusher are lower level than Liveblocks. It doesn't have any storage associated to a channel and does not solve any conflicts. - Liveblocks provides API to migrate existing app into collaborative ones via integration with state management library like Redux/Zustand. I have a POC somewhere that try integrate with Vuex, would love to release that at some point! - Ably/Pusher charges per WebSocket message sent. Liveblocks charges per WebSocket connection. Because of that, building features like cursors can become quite expensive on Pusher. - Ably/Pusher lets you connect to multiple channels with a single WebSocket connection (because they're using a centralized Redis IIRC). Liveblocks requires a single WebSocket connection per room. Pusher is good for notifications systems, Liveblocks shines when you need to build an app like Figma or Google spreadsheet. Hope it helps!

jkarneges 4y ago

Fastly announced Fanout today, which is exactly this https://www.fastly.com/blog/unlocking-real-time-at-the-edge https://www.fastly.com/blog/unlocking-real-time-at-the-edge