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They have recommendations for each robot but it's not easy to parse them quickly (I.e. in the table). I went through them all and it seems the only one that's

by lapser 4y ago

They have recommendations for each robot but it's not easy to parse them quickly (I.e. in the table). I went through them all and it seems the only one that's fully recommended is the Dreame Tech Z10 Pro. I actually bought it too the other day with the intention of installing this on it, so now waiting for delivery. The rooting process seems relatively involved though, so we'll see how it goes. [0] https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/supported-robots.html#dreame_z10pro https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/supported-robots.html#d...

pkulak 4y ago
That robot looks very nice indeed! I looked at the rooting instructions, and there's this lovely, bolded, line: > This was patched in many new firmwares. Do NOT update your robot via the Mi Home app if you want to root. Which sounds ominous if you're buying the robot new today. How do you feel about posting back here, or emailing me, or whatever, after you give it a shot? That bot plus open source firmware looks absolutely ideal.
- hypfer 4y ago
  Unfortunately it seems that the old stock is running out and they're now selling robots with a firmware version that is too new for that rooting method right from the factory. _Some_ users report that they still got UART rootable robots but the number of those who didn't steadily increases. That doesn't mean that those robots aren't rootable though. We do have more rooting methods, however those aren't public currently. It is TBD how we will move on from here.
- dkresge 4y ago
  Wow this feels a bit Baader-Meinhoff. With Valetudo + self-emptying as motivation, I received my Z10 via Amazon / "Dreametech official store" just this past Friday. Happily, it arrived with fw 4.1.7_1056 and I was able to use the simple reset method to install. Valetudo's worked wonderfully for the past week and I've never even seen the official app. One note: VT is not open source firmware. It's more like a brain controlling parasite with a good UX.
- lapser 4y ago
  Yeah, unfortunately this model isn't available in the UK so I'm just going to have to take a stab in the dark. I'll find out soon enough.
philoaftermath 4y ago
Definitely post back here on results if you can, curious how this turns out for you. Also curious what smart thermostat you favor.
- lapser 4y ago
  I'll be happy to! I'm still renting so I've not really bothered with any thermostat yet. I used to have a Nest Learning thermostat when I was living in a place where they allowed me to install it, but I gave that away when I moved. Haven't bothered with thermostats since, and likely won't until I've moved into my own place, but I'm hoping to find a thermostat that can run without cloud or at least, with an OSS cloud replacement.
freeqaz 4y ago
I've purchased this robot and installed this firmware on it. It definitely took about an hour and it was a little tedious with having the push the wires into the tiny pins (I had my orientation wrong for the pinout). That said, once it worked, it's been working well since then! My only note is that you do need to make sure to keep the sensors clean or the map can "drift" and it'll stop understanding where it is. For me, to fix that, I had to reset the map before it would work reliably again.
gempir 4y ago
I own the Z10 Pro flashing wasn’t super complicated and it now completely auto updates itself. Zero problems. All the features work. I haven’t even found a bug in the UI
- jonathankoren 4y ago
  So does it do anything better now? I have a relatively new Roomba (one with the camera), and I hate it. Sure it can be more efficient than the old models without a camera, it insists on building an map of the house, which takes forever, constantly needs restarted because it literally can't find rooms, or just fails to update the maps, requiring you to start all over again. It doesn't even have those IR walls, that the old ones had. IF there was a better mapping system, that would be helpful. After like 10 years of trying these things, I've decided they're mostly a gimmick, but damn it, I want them to work.
  - gempir 4y ago
    To be fair I never tried the original software so I don’t know what I am missing. It has very good mapping I don’t miss a feature you listed.

by lapser 4y ago

pkulak 4y ago

That robot looks very nice indeed! I looked at the rooting instructions, and there's this lovely, bolded, line: > This was patched in many new firmwares. Do NOT update your robot via the Mi Home app if you want to root. Which sounds ominous if you're buying the robot new today. How do you feel about posting back here, or emailing me, or whatever, after you give it a shot? That bot plus open source firmware looks absolutely ideal.

hypfer 4y ago
Unfortunately it seems that the old stock is running out and they're now selling robots with a firmware version that is too new for that rooting method right from the factory. _Some_ users report that they still got UART rootable robots but the number of those who didn't steadily increases. That doesn't mean that those robots aren't rootable though. We do have more rooting methods, however those aren't public currently. It is TBD how we will move on from here.
dkresge 4y ago
Wow this feels a bit Baader-Meinhoff. With Valetudo + self-emptying as motivation, I received my Z10 via Amazon / "Dreametech official store" just this past Friday. Happily, it arrived with fw 4.1.7_1056 and I was able to use the simple reset method to install. Valetudo's worked wonderfully for the past week and I've never even seen the official app. One note: VT is not open source firmware. It's more like a brain controlling parasite with a good UX.
lapser 4y ago
Yeah, unfortunately this model isn't available in the UK so I'm just going to have to take a stab in the dark. I'll find out soon enough.

philoaftermath 4y ago

Definitely post back here on results if you can, curious how this turns out for you. Also curious what smart thermostat you favor.

lapser 4y ago
I'll be happy to! I'm still renting so I've not really bothered with any thermostat yet. I used to have a Nest Learning thermostat when I was living in a place where they allowed me to install it, but I gave that away when I moved. Haven't bothered with thermostats since, and likely won't until I've moved into my own place, but I'm hoping to find a thermostat that can run without cloud or at least, with an OSS cloud replacement.

freeqaz 4y ago

I've purchased this robot and installed this firmware on it. It definitely took about an hour and it was a little tedious with having the push the wires into the tiny pins (I had my orientation wrong for the pinout). That said, once it worked, it's been working well since then! My only note is that you do need to make sure to keep the sensors clean or the map can "drift" and it'll stop understanding where it is. For me, to fix that, I had to reset the map before it would work reliably again.

gempir 4y ago

I own the Z10 Pro flashing wasn’t super complicated and it now completely auto updates itself. Zero problems. All the features work. I haven’t even found a bug in the UI

jonathankoren 4y ago
So does it do anything better now? I have a relatively new Roomba (one with the camera), and I hate it. Sure it can be more efficient than the old models without a camera, it insists on building an map of the house, which takes forever, constantly needs restarted because it literally can't find rooms, or just fails to update the maps, requiring you to start all over again. It doesn't even have those IR walls, that the old ones had. IF there was a better mapping system, that would be helpful. After like 10 years of trying these things, I've decided they're mostly a gimmick, but damn it, I want them to work.
- gempir 4y ago
  To be fair I never tried the original software so I don’t know what I am missing. It has very good mapping I don’t miss a feature you listed.