IMHO that loophole was key to the success of Linux. It's what allowed the industry to back open source with billions of R&D investment and bootstrapped the whol

IMHO that loophole was key to the success of Linux. It's what allowed the industry to back open source with billions of R&D investment and bootstrapped the whole ecosystem. When do we have the discussion about how that's the very problem, from a lack of user freedom perspective? We want to talk about dictators and technocrats unjustly abusing the powers of surveillance, why not start at the fact that we allowed our FOSS ecosystem that could have given more freedom and power to billions to be loopholed into a corporate hellscape of uninstallable apps, lack of root on devices (without root, you aren't the owner), and other fundamental underminings of what ownership means! To me, all this and more is exactly why gplv3+ is actually so important, and honestly I just feel like HN is so full of corporate types who have forgotten the hacker mentality in it's curious, freedom loving base type, instead espousing stockholm syndromed repeating points about why linux doesn't matter, why YOTLD (year of the linux desktop) is never going to happen, why gpl is a bad license, etc. Right to root. Right to repair. Right to see the source code on your device. Right to see and modify code and make your device do what you want it to. Right to share that source code. It's been here the whole time, RMS and Eben Moglen were truly men far ahead of their time, visionaries of the dystopian future battles that were to come. Users are losing the war right now. When are we going to have this conversation?