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I think we're just using different definitions here. There will still be a non-zero amount of hierarchical order within social systems even if it doesn't come

• pastacacioepepe 4y ago
  We actually agree, hierarchies can exist and be good, they just need to be voluntary and not in the capitalist sense, where you can "voluntarily" choose between homelessness or wage slavery. I just wanted to elaborate (since I agree) on your point that Anarchy is "a valuable concept to reference as we collaborate to build actual, functioning social systems". I won't exclude that Anarchy could eventually concretize though, who knows!
  • mandelbrotwurst 4y ago
    We definitely agree and I also wouldn't exclude that! I tend to speak this way because I lean towards discussing near and mid-term futures as opposed to longer term ones in many conversations for a number of reasons. I do this in part because I'm biased toward the now both subconsciously and out of pragmatism as a material being living in the present, but also largely because I find that other people I encounter tend to be even more that way and struggle to envision the longer-term possible that may require a number of intermediate steps. Anyway, to our future, voluntarily!