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Very satisfied I waited to buy an Air until the new M2 machines were announced today. In March I ordered a Mac Studio (not the Ultra model) and it arrived in e

by qubex 4y ago

Very satisfied I waited to buy an Air until the new M2 machines were announced today. In March I ordered a Mac Studio (not the Ultra model) and it arrived in early May. It’s an absolutely amazing machine.

azemetre 4y ago
I thought about waiting as well a few months back but with the supply chain issues I decided to just order a 'suped up MBP with the fastest processor and 64 gigs of ram. Took 2 months to arrive too. Hoping the machine will last me a decade since my other MBP is from 2013 and still runs everything I throw at it (mostly web dev stuff).
- Gigachad 4y ago
  It won’t. Apple just discontinued support for the 2016 MacBooks which is pretty disappointing.
  - azemetre 4y ago
    Wow! That’s disappointing, I never had issues updating the OS either but now I’m worried since rolling back is so painful. Extremely disappointing that a machine with decent hardware gets sanctioned to be trash when it’s still useful to do 95% of daily activities. This stuff needs to be enshrined in law…
  - samatman 4y ago
    That's not true, and you can easily check this for yourself: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624
    - Gigachad 4y ago
      This applies for repair part availability iirc. The latest OS announcement was 2017 devices and newer.
    - replygirl 4y ago
      check out the "see if your mac can run macos ventura" section here: https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/ https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/
      - samatman 4y ago
        That is not 'out of support', what I linked to explains what is and isn't out of support, how the categories work, what the retirement schedule looks like, and so on. Any machine which isn't out of support will continue to receive security updates for the last version of the operating system which it does support, for a minimum period of ten years for Macs. To reiterate, a 2016 Mac is still under support, which means both that Apple will repair the hardware for a price, and that the operating system it's able to run is also still being supported. It isn't the latest OS, trying to gloss this as a lack of support is misleading.
        VancouverMan 4y ago
        That's "supported" in a somewhat weak and contrived sense. I think a lot of people would, in practice, expect "supported" to mean that they can use their device to run the latest version of macOS.
        Kerrick 4y ago
        I disagree. For example when we build software, if we choose to build upon third party software with a regular release schedule, we often have the choice of upgrading to an LTS release or the latest stable. The LTS doesn’t have all the new features of the latest stable, but it still accepts bug reports and receives security patches. That S in LTS stands for Support, and I don’t think that’s unwarranted. Similarly, if your Mac can’t run the latest MacOS but Apple is still shipping you security updates and will still help you at the Genius Bar, that’s what I’d call supported.
        ghaff 4y ago
        That's actually good news I wasn't aware of. I have a couple Macs (a MacBook and an iMac) that I mostly just use for browsing. As long as they get security updates I'm pretty well set. I probably will replace the iMac with a Mac Mini at some point but this means there's no rush.
corrral 4y ago
My M1 Air still feels faster in practice than the monster hex-core AMD desktop I built less than a year before I go the M1. And waaaaay faster than my 2015 MBP. I expect it'll last me until the M4 or M5 :-) [EDIT] Though, yes, if I were just getting ready to buy one, I'd be glad I waited for the M2, as well.

by qubex 4y ago

azemetre 4y ago

I thought about waiting as well a few months back but with the supply chain issues I decided to just order a 'suped up MBP with the fastest processor and 64 gigs of ram. Took 2 months to arrive too. Hoping the machine will last me a decade since my other MBP is from 2013 and still runs everything I throw at it (mostly web dev stuff).

Gigachad 4y ago
It won’t. Apple just discontinued support for the 2016 MacBooks which is pretty disappointing.
- azemetre 4y ago
  Wow! That’s disappointing, I never had issues updating the OS either but now I’m worried since rolling back is so painful. Extremely disappointing that a machine with decent hardware gets sanctioned to be trash when it’s still useful to do 95% of daily activities. This stuff needs to be enshrined in law…
- samatman 4y ago
  That's not true, and you can easily check this for yourself: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    This applies for repair part availability iirc. The latest OS announcement was 2017 devices and newer.
  - replygirl 4y ago
    check out the "see if your mac can run macos ventura" section here: https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/ https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-ventura-preview/
    - samatman 4y ago
      That is not 'out of support', what I linked to explains what is and isn't out of support, how the categories work, what the retirement schedule looks like, and so on. Any machine which isn't out of support will continue to receive security updates for the last version of the operating system which it does support, for a minimum period of ten years for Macs. To reiterate, a 2016 Mac is still under support, which means both that Apple will repair the hardware for a price, and that the operating system it's able to run is also still being supported. It isn't the latest OS, trying to gloss this as a lack of support is misleading.
      - VancouverMan 4y ago
        That's "supported" in a somewhat weak and contrived sense. I think a lot of people would, in practice, expect "supported" to mean that they can use their device to run the latest version of macOS.
        Kerrick 4y ago
        I disagree. For example when we build software, if we choose to build upon third party software with a regular release schedule, we often have the choice of upgrading to an LTS release or the latest stable. The LTS doesn’t have all the new features of the latest stable, but it still accepts bug reports and receives security patches. That S in LTS stands for Support, and I don’t think that’s unwarranted. Similarly, if your Mac can’t run the latest MacOS but Apple is still shipping you security updates and will still help you at the Genius Bar, that’s what I’d call supported.
        ghaff 4y ago
        That's actually good news I wasn't aware of. I have a couple Macs (a MacBook and an iMac) that I mostly just use for browsing. As long as they get security updates I'm pretty well set. I probably will replace the iMac with a Mac Mini at some point but this means there's no rush.

corrral 4y ago

My M1 Air still feels faster in practice than the monster hex-core AMD desktop I built less than a year before I go the M1. And waaaaay faster than my 2015 MBP. I expect it'll last me until the M4 or M5 :-) [EDIT] Though, yes, if I were just getting ready to buy one, I'd be glad I waited for the M2, as well.