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the hope is ChromeOS…

by hajimuz 4y ago

hulitu 4y ago
> the hope is ChromeOS… The hope is that ChromeOS dies. It has nothing to do with Linux except the kernel.
- forgotpwd16 4y ago
  >It has nothing to do with Linux Which isn't entirely bad since it has some good concepts regarding security that will make good additions to current Linux systems.
- sbuk 4y ago
  I thought Linux was the kernel…
- edgyquant 4y ago
  Linux is a kernel though. This feels like the opposite of Stallmans GNU/Linux rant.
- wildrhythms 4y ago
  I hope some ambitious soul can port the Chrome OS window manager in some way. Chrome OS is the only non Windows or Mac window manager that handles UI scaling correctly in all cases and across all displays with differing scaling settings. There is no Linux WM that I've found anywhere near as good (don't say i3wm).
dylan-m 4y ago
I hope not! Outside of the Chrome part, ChromeOS is a mess of awkwardly attached virtual machines. If you want a "native" app (unless your native app is Steam), your best option is Android, which means you're inside an Android VM, your webview component is an Android Chrome webview, you can't see other things on the network (because you have a virtual network device), permissions are granted via the Android Settings panel which is distinct from the Chrome OS Settings panel and an even more user-hostile experience than it already was, and your widgets are all slightly wrong. It is bloat all the way down. Running plain old Linux apps is a similar problem, except it's a "developer feature", so you can't expect an end user to use your app on their Chromebook. It is exceedingly difficult for a developer to contribute any kind of improvement to this because the bug tracker is a black hole and the source code is a gargantuan monorepo with multi-page build instructions that basically require you to sacrifice a computer if you want to get anywhere. Sandboxing is great and all, but the thing is a glorified hypervisor. It has no vision of its own for app distribution, user experience, or developer experience. It boggles my mind that they are doing this with ChromeOS: the OS that runs on the cheapest, slowest, most under-specced computers on the market.
night-rider 4y ago
Check out Cloudready. I use it for leveraging the Google ecosystem.
robonerd 4y ago
If that's what you want, then use it. There's nothing stopping you. Other people choosing to use something different should be no skin off your back, unless what you really want is some sort of suicide-pact.

the hope is ChromeOS…

hulitu 4y ago

> the hope is ChromeOS… The hope is that ChromeOS dies. It has nothing to do with Linux except the kernel.

forgotpwd16 4y ago
>It has nothing to do with Linux Which isn't entirely bad since it has some good concepts regarding security that will make good additions to current Linux systems.
sbuk 4y ago
I thought Linux was the kernel…
edgyquant 4y ago
Linux is a kernel though. This feels like the opposite of Stallmans GNU/Linux rant.
wildrhythms 4y ago
I hope some ambitious soul can port the Chrome OS window manager in some way. Chrome OS is the only non Windows or Mac window manager that handles UI scaling correctly in all cases and across all displays with differing scaling settings. There is no Linux WM that I've found anywhere near as good (don't say i3wm).

dylan-m 4y ago

I hope not! Outside of the Chrome part, ChromeOS is a mess of awkwardly attached virtual machines. If you want a "native" app (unless your native app is Steam), your best option is Android, which means you're inside an Android VM, your webview component is an Android Chrome webview, you can't see other things on the network (because you have a virtual network device), permissions are granted via the Android Settings panel which is distinct from the Chrome OS Settings panel and an even more user-hostile experience than it already was, and your widgets are all slightly wrong. It is bloat all the way down. Running plain old Linux apps is a similar problem, except it's a "developer feature", so you can't expect an end user to use your app on their Chromebook. It is exceedingly difficult for a developer to contribute any kind of improvement to this because the bug tracker is a black hole and the source code is a gargantuan monorepo with multi-page build instructions that basically require you to sacrifice a computer if you want to get anywhere. Sandboxing is great and all, but the thing is a glorified hypervisor. It has no vision of its own for app distribution, user experience, or developer experience. It boggles my mind that they are doing this with ChromeOS: the OS that runs on the cheapest, slowest, most under-specced computers on the market.

night-rider 4y ago

Check out Cloudready. I use it for leveraging the Google ecosystem.

robonerd 4y ago

If that's what you want, then use it. There's nothing stopping you. Other people choosing to use something different should be no skin off your back, unless what you really want is some sort of suicide-pact.