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I was a kid at primary school when the Falklands war was underway, I remember how the teachers were telling us Argentina was bad for invading and we should supp

I was a kid at primary school when the Falklands war was underway, I remember how the teachers were telling us Argentina was bad for invading and we should support the armed forces. We had to draw pictures of the Falklands conflict from images we might see in the papers, because I was made to draw silhouettes of the Navy boats! Even at Primary School here in the UK, kids were being propagandised and I bet it still goes on today, most recently with the Jubilee! The Royal Family have the nickname "The Firm" here in the UK, but it also extends out the wider military forces and members of the armed forces both active and retired, as a term of endearment for themselves when they are intimidating and harassing members of the public in an organised crime syndicate manner.

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gadders 4y ago
Argentina was bad though? If ever there was a just war, it was this.
- Gibbon1 4y ago
  The Generals lost their war and got booted so there is that.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  Without in any way endorsing Argentina, you might like to reflect on why Britain (qua state) cares so much about the Falklands. Hint: it's not out of tender feeling for a small number of sheep farmers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Antarctic_Territory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Antarctic_Territory
- Terry_Roll 4y ago
  Well have far back in time does one go to settle a dispute? I think Isreal's existence claim goes back to the time of Christ, Roman & Egyptian times, so is that the precedence we should adopt globally because we know how many clever Jewish scholars there are and they wouldn't be wrong would they? However my point is, with hindsight I object to the propaganda and one sided nature of the clearly biased teaching I was subjected to at the time, possibly even without parental consent because its not like many parents even get a say in what their kids are taught. The knock on effect is now starting to play out, decades later!
  - gadders 4y ago
    How would you have expected the state broadcaster to behave? This was the usual behaviour up until the Falklands (and I was in Junior school in the UK as well at the time). More recently, the BBC seems to prefer to talk down their home country armed forces.
    - Terry_Roll 4y ago
      > How would you have expected the state broadcaster to behave? With some cojones. So something you may not have experienced and witnessed if you stayed in one area, is that education was different in different parts of the country, sometimes within the same county. I suspect some of this was a stealth attempt to create future opportunities in deprived parts of the country, but that's the optimist in me which is almost certainly misguided. >More recently, the BBC seems to prefer to talk down their home country armed forces. If a country has got to the stage where its got to send the troops in, then you have already lost the argument and are now resorting to violence, that's hardly enlightened is it, and justifies every individual in both country's to get violent over the same conflict or any other disagreement now or in the future. Its not setting an example by the very entity that wants ultimate authority! What an excellent example we should all aspire to be... not! Prison populations is a measure of the state's failings and who has the largest prison populations? The US and UK. Why does USUK dominate the global stage in hard power (US) and soft power(UK)? Maybe its that Viking Raider mentality, raping and pillaging everything in its path?
glaucon 4y ago
Any chance of evidence for the text that starts "but it also extends ..." ? Just anything to support the concept that tens of thousands of individuals of myriad types and interests are acting in a concerted manner to intimidate and harass the rest of the population will do.
- Terry_Roll 4y ago
  I'm in no way able to provide evidence because its very clever and full spectrum you dont realise what people are getting at the time. I've got wise to some of it now, but you need to understand how the innuendo game plays. If you dont get innuendo, you wont get it, but its extremely clever and is something that is played out over decades. However I will leave you with this thought, if you recognise the existence of preemptive military attacks then it could be argued that the military dont accept the British legal stance of "innocent until proven guilty". Ergo anyone backing the military, backs state sanctioned illegal activity which is why the security/secret services exist!

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gadders 4y ago

Argentina was bad though? If ever there was a just war, it was this.

Gibbon1 4y ago
The Generals lost their war and got booted so there is that.
anigbrowl 4y ago
Without in any way endorsing Argentina, you might like to reflect on why Britain (qua state) cares so much about the Falklands. Hint: it's not out of tender feeling for a small number of sheep farmers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Antarctic_Territory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Antarctic_Territory
Terry_Roll 4y ago
Well have far back in time does one go to settle a dispute? I think Isreal's existence claim goes back to the time of Christ, Roman & Egyptian times, so is that the precedence we should adopt globally because we know how many clever Jewish scholars there are and they wouldn't be wrong would they? However my point is, with hindsight I object to the propaganda and one sided nature of the clearly biased teaching I was subjected to at the time, possibly even without parental consent because its not like many parents even get a say in what their kids are taught. The knock on effect is now starting to play out, decades later!
- gadders 4y ago
  How would you have expected the state broadcaster to behave? This was the usual behaviour up until the Falklands (and I was in Junior school in the UK as well at the time). More recently, the BBC seems to prefer to talk down their home country armed forces.
  - Terry_Roll 4y ago
    > How would you have expected the state broadcaster to behave? With some cojones. So something you may not have experienced and witnessed if you stayed in one area, is that education was different in different parts of the country, sometimes within the same county. I suspect some of this was a stealth attempt to create future opportunities in deprived parts of the country, but that's the optimist in me which is almost certainly misguided. >More recently, the BBC seems to prefer to talk down their home country armed forces. If a country has got to the stage where its got to send the troops in, then you have already lost the argument and are now resorting to violence, that's hardly enlightened is it, and justifies every individual in both country's to get violent over the same conflict or any other disagreement now or in the future. Its not setting an example by the very entity that wants ultimate authority! What an excellent example we should all aspire to be... not! Prison populations is a measure of the state's failings and who has the largest prison populations? The US and UK. Why does USUK dominate the global stage in hard power (US) and soft power(UK)? Maybe its that Viking Raider mentality, raping and pillaging everything in its path?

glaucon 4y ago

Any chance of evidence for the text that starts "but it also extends ..." ? Just anything to support the concept that tens of thousands of individuals of myriad types and interests are acting in a concerted manner to intimidate and harass the rest of the population will do.

Terry_Roll 4y ago
I'm in no way able to provide evidence because its very clever and full spectrum you dont realise what people are getting at the time. I've got wise to some of it now, but you need to understand how the innuendo game plays. If you dont get innuendo, you wont get it, but its extremely clever and is something that is played out over decades. However I will leave you with this thought, if you recognise the existence of preemptive military attacks then it could be argued that the military dont accept the British legal stance of "innocent until proven guilty". Ergo anyone backing the military, backs state sanctioned illegal activity which is why the security/secret services exist!