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"We" also stopped caring. People used to prefer GPL over MIT-style licenses for ideological reasons. That thought you are having now, namely that "ideology" is
by IfOnlyYouKnew 4y ago
"We" also stopped caring. People used to prefer GPL over MIT-style licenses for ideological reasons. That thought you are having now, namely that "ideology" is a dirty word, is a symptom of the same change.
OSS development moving to internet and hardware companies is the most direct cause, as for them MIT-licensing makes sense (in the sense that others need to use it to be an option for them).
But, increasingly, the people writing the software, at those companies and elsewhere, not just prefer MIT over GPL; they actively don't have an opinion and, in many cases, not even an understanding of the issue, or, worst case, the basics of copyright.[0]
Some of this is simply due to most of the salient issues being decisively won or, at least, being replaced by a solid truce: Linux is everywhere but Microsoft still flourishes. Other software companies have either also found out that co-existence is possible. Or they no longer exist/no longer have the power (Netscape, SCO, Oracle), or never had the chance to get started in this environment (that httpd you are not paying for). Facebook, Apple, Netflix, and Google were never threatened. Thus, nobody is fighting Open Source, and the need to defend it has seized to be a motivating factor to get acquainted with the old ways of lawfare.
But growing up without such challenges leads to a generation trying to find meaning. Having lost ideals of freedom to an assumption of such, they've found much the same ideas as other bored generations: getting rich and, along the way, maybe finding some group or other to occasionally hate-stomp into the curb for shits and giggles.
So they're now running GPUs as space- and world-heaters, while whatever capability for political thought they have is busy balancing their love of Ayn Rand and Jordan Peterson with their hatred of women and the New York Times.
0: Note how there was never a thought expended to any moral or legal issues with the use of vast datasets of text, photos, or music to create text-, photo-, or music-generating AI models. But when someone started doing the same to source code, the possibility that their creative use of fopen to open a file provoked outrage usually reserved for female reddit-CEOs or game journalists. Free Software, for someone writing software, was about giving others such freedoms. This was altruism in its purest form (it's in the dictionary close to alt-right, if someone wants to look it up).
- Gigachad 4y agoBig corporate ran a campaign to dirty the name of GPL, Richard Stallman and the FSF. They won.
- enriquto 4y agoIt doesn't seem that they "won"; at least not yet. In my case, the bullying of RMS moved me to join the FSF, to stop all use of non-free software in my life, and to become an even more vocal activist for free software. Looking around, within the scientific community, free software is today stronger than ever, and going even stronger. All the basic tools used by scientists today are 100% free software: R, gfortran, octave, python, torch, numpy, lapack, fftw3, gmp, overleaf, jupyter, git... The only remaining non-free software pieces of infrastructure are github and some proprietary chat rooms that will go unnamed.
- pjmlp 4y agoNow count how much of that is GPL.
- enriquto 4y agowhy, I was just citing some common free software. Anyhow, about half of my random list seems to be copyleft: GPL : R, gfortran, octave, fftw3, git LGPL : gmp (dual-licensed with gpl2) AGPL : overleaf BSD-like: python, numpy, torch, jupyter, lapack What is your point?
- pjmlp 4y agoBasically what OP's was referring to, > Big corporate ran a campaign to dirty the name of GPL, Richard Stallman and the FSF. They won.
- fnord123 4y agoAll of those projects pre-date the campaign against RMS afaict so their licenses were a settled matter already.
- pjmlp 4y agoFirst part of OP's sentence is "Big corporate ran a campaign to dirty the name of GPL...."
- quickthrower2 4y agoIdeology aside, isn’t licensing GPL better for the copyright owner? Makes it harder for someone else to commercialize your work.
- pfortuny 4y agoThe GPL is for software, which the GNU org deems non-copyrighteable AFAIK.
- quickthrower2 4y agoI don't think you forfeit copyright. I might be wrong.
- simiones 4y agoWhere did you get the idea that GNU deems software non-copyrightable? The GPL itself would not work in any way, shape or form if software copyright weren't enforceable, since you could simply copy the source code without regard to its license. It may be true that GNU would advocate for removing software copyright, but that in no way means that they believe (deem) software to be non-copyrightable today.
- IfOnlyYouKnew 4y agoSee? That's what I mean, above.
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