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> All your streaming services -- Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc -- are using DRM and no one even fights this any more. I do not pay for these services. I restrict

> All your streaming services -- Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc -- are using DRM and no one even fights this any more. I do not pay for these services. I restrict myself to YouTube and Odysee.

azalemeth 4y ago
Indeed. Sites like gog.com and itch.io indicate to me that the nerd-hate of DRM lives on. I don't have a Netflix subscription and I haven't knowingly bought a DRM 'd device ever. I even go as far as removing the widevine library when forced to use Chrome, for example. We're losing the war, but we do fight on.
- danuker 4y ago
  > We're losing the war I am not losing any war. Content restricted by DRM is not worth watching to me. The best content is produced by real people (such as commenters on HN), not large companies. DRM customers will have to find out the hard way that as soon as the DRM server has a glitch, they're unable to see the content they paid for. Hell, even an expiring contract might make some ebooks you bought [1] or the music in your game disappear [2]. No thanks. [1] https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989048 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989... [2] https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-of-gta-ivs-music-licenses-expire-later-this-month-and-songs-will-be-removed.35209/ https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-of-gta-ivs-music-licen...
  - nonrandomstring 4y ago
    > Content restricted by DRM is not worth watching to me. That's a good principle, and a hard bar to meet when the content is free, but still encumbered. A chap from our local dads group was really keen to share his Disney+ account with me. That's actually a "legitimate" thing, I guess Disney want to get other people's kids hooked so they have a "share with a friend" scheme. I have to admit it was a struggle for us to decide against using a free child pacifier service.
    - azalemeth 4y ago
      It causes some friction with my partner as well. I won't watch Channel 4, 5, or similar services that use DRM – only the BBC. I've written extensively to the other channels stating why I won't use their DRM'd offerings and get a stock reply. I keep on banging the drum, however.
andsoitis 4y ago
> I restrict myself to YouTube and Odysee. Aren't YouTube and Odysee for UGC, so not really the same content type as Netflix, Prime, etc. > I do not pay for these services. Do you watch anything on Prime Video, given that it comes bundled with a Prime subscription?

> All your streaming services -- Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc -- are using DRM and no one even fights this any more. I do not pay for these services. I restrict myself to YouTube and Odysee.

azalemeth 4y ago

Indeed. Sites like gog.com and itch.io indicate to me that the nerd-hate of DRM lives on. I don't have a Netflix subscription and I haven't knowingly bought a DRM 'd device ever. I even go as far as removing the widevine library when forced to use Chrome, for example. We're losing the war, but we do fight on.

danuker 4y ago
> We're losing the war I am not losing any war. Content restricted by DRM is not worth watching to me. The best content is produced by real people (such as commenters on HN), not large companies. DRM customers will have to find out the hard way that as soon as the DRM server has a glitch, they're unable to see the content they paid for. Hell, even an expiring contract might make some ebooks you bought [1] or the music in your game disappear [2]. No thanks. [1] https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989048 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989... [2] https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-of-gta-ivs-music-licenses-expire-later-this-month-and-songs-will-be-removed.35209/ https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-of-gta-ivs-music-licen...
- nonrandomstring 4y ago
  > Content restricted by DRM is not worth watching to me. That's a good principle, and a hard bar to meet when the content is free, but still encumbered. A chap from our local dads group was really keen to share his Disney+ account with me. That's actually a "legitimate" thing, I guess Disney want to get other people's kids hooked so they have a "share with a friend" scheme. I have to admit it was a struggle for us to decide against using a free child pacifier service.
  - azalemeth 4y ago
    It causes some friction with my partner as well. I won't watch Channel 4, 5, or similar services that use DRM – only the BBC. I've written extensively to the other channels stating why I won't use their DRM'd offerings and get a stock reply. I keep on banging the drum, however.

andsoitis 4y ago

> I restrict myself to YouTube and Odysee. Aren't YouTube and Odysee for UGC, so not really the same content type as Netflix, Prime, etc. > I do not pay for these services. Do you watch anything on Prime Video, given that it comes bundled with a Prime subscription?