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One thing that really annoys me is how keyboard hostile the apps, including Apple’s apps on macOS, have become. The apps developed lazily with Catalyst are prob
by AnonHP 4y ago
One thing that really annoys me is how keyboard hostile the apps, including Apple’s apps on macOS, have become. The apps developed lazily with Catalyst are probably the worst, but I’m guessing it’s a general issue with the newer SDKs like SwiftUI.
An example: in the Reminders app on macOS, using the Tab key to navigate from one input to another (like date, time, location, etc.) is so broken in the tab order that it begs the question if Apple has:
1. a development team that knows macOS and cares about productivity
2. a QA team
3. a QA team that understands keyboard usage, tab order and other navigation elements
I recall seeing similar brain damaged (yeah, I’m really annoyed that I’m using such terms in frustration) tab order implementations in Finder and elsewhere.
Some companies decline gradually before they look like a creature with an entirely different DNA, and that’s been happening with Apple ever since the convergence between iOS and macOS started. Doesn’t matter what the top execs like Craig Federighi say about the Mac being important. The user experience and user friendliness cultivated over decades has been eroding over time, and that’s sad to see because the competition doesn’t seem to be doing better either, though on other fronts.
Things weren’t completely perfect in Apple’s Mac operating systems in the past either. But it was close to getting to that, and I will remember it as “the golden age”. The M1 chips are phenomenal, but crippled by this cavalier attitude to software.
- edgyquant 4y agoUsing control + arrow keys with multiple screens is a nightmare. It always moves the focus to the other screen so if I change some code -> arrow key back to chrome and refresh it refreshes (or whatever other command) the window on my other screen.
- musicale 4y agoI don't think those apps are tested on Mac. News doesn't work properly on macOS either.
- twirlock 4y ago
- perryizgr8 4y ago> how keyboard hostile the apps Some macos apps have become very mouse hostile too. Example is activity monitor. You cannot right click anywhere. Even though it would be natural to use that for killing a process.
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- diroussel 4y agoYeah Photos app doesn’t do well with keyboard operation either. If you are in full screen mode, and you have gone from the grid to view a single photo, you might expect that the Esc key will take you back to the grid view, but no, it just exits full screen mode. Same in the App Store app. There is no keyboard short cut to go back to the main list.
- alsetmusic 4y ago> Same in the App Store app. There is no keyboard short cut to go back to the main list. Command-[, just like the browser. Just tested to confirm. The App Store app is basically a bunch of webviews.
- diroussel 4y agoThanks good to know. It would be great if apple documented that in the Help menu.