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Don't you also have to update your driver's license when moving? Then what is more onerous about it? > requires showing up in person within a month of moving

Don't you also have to update your driver's license when moving? Then what is more onerous about it? > requires showing up in person within a month of moving Not during covid by the way. I moved in 2020 and could simply send in the documents by email. Then some time later I had to briefly drop by to get a stamp for my ID, but that was like 5 minutes. > registering to vote is super easy and can be done online in most states That is nice, but not having to register at all is even easier.

rayiner 4y ago
You don’t have to update your driver’s license unless you permanently move from one state to another, and even then not really. It won’t stop working. Sure, lots of things were relaxed during the pandemic. But you have to register in person normally, correct?
- hef19898 4y ago
  Unless you change your primary residency you don't have to do anything in Germany. And registering a secondary residency has tax implications but none regarding voting. And why do think your German ID card won't work anymore if the address on it is wrong?
  - rayiner 4y ago
    https://www.bmi.bund.de/EN/topics/administrative-reform/registration/registration-node.html https://www.bmi.bund.de/EN/topics/administrative-reform/regi... > Anyone who moves into a residence in Germany must register within two weeks of moving in. To register, you have to go to the registration authority of your municipality and present a valid ID card, passport or passport substitute document and a certificate issued by the person providing the residence. > Persons moving abroad must deregister with the registration authority of their municipality, while those moving within Germany only have to register their new residence. It is not necessary to deregister the former residence. > Both Germans and foreigners are required to register. Violations of the registration re-quirement are subject to fines. I didn’t say the German ID card would stop working. But as I understand it, voting is based on your registered address, which must be current to vote, and that residency registration requires showing up in person. The point is that voting in Germany requires showing up to a registration office with documents every time you move, which is more onerous than presenting an ID to vote in the US. Both voter registration and renewing a driver’s license or changing your address on your license can be done completely online in most states. I’ve only gone in person to deal with my driver’s license twice in my life (I’m almost 40), despite moving almost a dozen times. Once when I got my license as a teenager, and once when I changed my residency permanently from Virginia to Maryland.
- diffeomorphism 4y ago
  > But you have to register in person. Partially. You can fill out and send all documents online or by mail -- at least in the city I moved to. Then once everything is done you need to make an appointment to stop by and pick up your address sticker and certificate. Having some in person part for ID things seems unavoidable, but nothing onerous.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    In America, people would call that process racist voter disenfranchisement. “Black and brown people” don’t have Internet access or stamps, they would assert, and can’t take time off from working three jobs to show up to a citizenship office. In case you think I’m joking, Joe Biden has claimed that Georgia’s online voter registration (https://registertovote.sos.ga.gov/GAOLVR/welcometoga.do?#no-back-button https://registertovote.sos.ga.gov/GAOLVR/welcometoga.do?#no-...) and free Voter ID card (https://dds.georgia.gov/voter https://dds.georgia.gov/voter) amounts to “the New Jim Crow.”

rayiner 4y ago

You don’t have to update your driver’s license unless you permanently move from one state to another, and even then not really. It won’t stop working. Sure, lots of things were relaxed during the pandemic. But you have to register in person normally, correct?

hef19898 4y ago
Unless you change your primary residency you don't have to do anything in Germany. And registering a secondary residency has tax implications but none regarding voting. And why do think your German ID card won't work anymore if the address on it is wrong?
- rayiner 4y ago
  https://www.bmi.bund.de/EN/topics/administrative-reform/registration/registration-node.html https://www.bmi.bund.de/EN/topics/administrative-reform/regi... > Anyone who moves into a residence in Germany must register within two weeks of moving in. To register, you have to go to the registration authority of your municipality and present a valid ID card, passport or passport substitute document and a certificate issued by the person providing the residence. > Persons moving abroad must deregister with the registration authority of their municipality, while those moving within Germany only have to register their new residence. It is not necessary to deregister the former residence. > Both Germans and foreigners are required to register. Violations of the registration re-quirement are subject to fines. I didn’t say the German ID card would stop working. But as I understand it, voting is based on your registered address, which must be current to vote, and that residency registration requires showing up in person. The point is that voting in Germany requires showing up to a registration office with documents every time you move, which is more onerous than presenting an ID to vote in the US. Both voter registration and renewing a driver’s license or changing your address on your license can be done completely online in most states. I’ve only gone in person to deal with my driver’s license twice in my life (I’m almost 40), despite moving almost a dozen times. Once when I got my license as a teenager, and once when I changed my residency permanently from Virginia to Maryland.
diffeomorphism 4y ago
> But you have to register in person. Partially. You can fill out and send all documents online or by mail -- at least in the city I moved to. Then once everything is done you need to make an appointment to stop by and pick up your address sticker and certificate. Having some in person part for ID things seems unavoidable, but nothing onerous.
- rayiner 4y ago
  In America, people would call that process racist voter disenfranchisement. “Black and brown people” don’t have Internet access or stamps, they would assert, and can’t take time off from working three jobs to show up to a citizenship office. In case you think I’m joking, Joe Biden has claimed that Georgia’s online voter registration (https://registertovote.sos.ga.gov/GAOLVR/welcometoga.do?#no-back-button https://registertovote.sos.ga.gov/GAOLVR/welcometoga.do?#no-...) and free Voter ID card (https://dds.georgia.gov/voter https://dds.georgia.gov/voter) amounts to “the New Jim Crow.”