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If the 4 people counting the ballots are chosen truly at random after the voting is done, and they count the votes independently from each other, and there is s
by Banana699 4y ago
If the 4 people counting the ballots are chosen truly at random after the voting is done, and they count the votes independently from each other, and there is some punishment (even a mild one, like a moderate fine) for disagreeing with the majority count, why would a counter discard your votes ? they have 0 gaurantess that others would discard the same number of votes so why risk being the minority report and getting punished ? bonus points if there is a reward for agreeing with the majority.
If the randomness gaurantees hold and everybody knows they hold, I have trouble imagining a better system. It has a blockchain-y feel to it, you have no reason to trust any single rando, but a bunch of random non-colluding people all acting consistently is a very strong indicator that they are actually telling the truth.
- mgraczyk 4y agoYes if they all count everyone, then they have to collude to discard my vote. The better system is what you described, plus a box that I insert my ballot in that counts it. The electronic machines used in SF are basically the same as an additional random poll worker, with the added benefit that the machine's count can only be manipulated by physically inserting ballots into the machine.