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The charging stations are likely not a durable advantage, they are cheap enough to build out that other companies will be able to catch up.

ok_dad 4y ago
The hard part is probably being able to support something around 1 MW peaks when charging a few cars at once with fast charging on a small lot zoned for light commercial. I believe Tesla is storing energy on-site so they don't have to load the local grid with those kinds of peaks. That kind of grid energy storage is kinda expensive, if you don't build it yourself.
- dijonman2 4y ago
  Doesn’t this shift the burden onto local utility grids and their customers instead of vehicle owners?
  - ok_dad 4y ago
    That’s the point, Tesla has experience in not making it a local problem, by using their own technology. Other car makers don’t have an energy company to lean on.
    - carlivar 4y ago
      Ah yes, the fabled solar powered superchargers. One of the oh-so-many failed promises. https://electrek.co/2017/06/09/tesla-superchargers-solar-battery-grid-elon-musk/ https://electrek.co/2017/06/09/tesla-superchargers-solar-bat...
- maxerickson 4y ago
  I don't see how the costs would be any different for Tesla than for some other company that is also supported by an electric car maker. The fenced off area at my local Meijer is pretty small.
  - ok_dad 4y ago
    Tesla makes grid batteries using the same or similar tech as for their cars.
    - maxerickson 4y ago
      Yeah, I understand. There's nothing stopping a large buyer from getting a good deal on other grid storage. (or say, some other grid storage company deciding to build chargers)
wfhordie 4y ago
Great! I look forward to it. Let’s fucking go. Show me the plans. Show me the permits. Show me the map with the pins that tell me when they’re planning to catch up. Tesla has been firing on all cylinders on this front for years. There’s a new forum thread started for every single charging site that is planned. I want to see this for electrify America stations.

ok_dad 4y ago

The hard part is probably being able to support something around 1 MW peaks when charging a few cars at once with fast charging on a small lot zoned for light commercial. I believe Tesla is storing energy on-site so they don't have to load the local grid with those kinds of peaks. That kind of grid energy storage is kinda expensive, if you don't build it yourself.

dijonman2 4y ago
Doesn’t this shift the burden onto local utility grids and their customers instead of vehicle owners?
- ok_dad 4y ago
  That’s the point, Tesla has experience in not making it a local problem, by using their own technology. Other car makers don’t have an energy company to lean on.
  - carlivar 4y ago
    Ah yes, the fabled solar powered superchargers. One of the oh-so-many failed promises. https://electrek.co/2017/06/09/tesla-superchargers-solar-battery-grid-elon-musk/ https://electrek.co/2017/06/09/tesla-superchargers-solar-bat...
maxerickson 4y ago
I don't see how the costs would be any different for Tesla than for some other company that is also supported by an electric car maker. The fenced off area at my local Meijer is pretty small.
- ok_dad 4y ago
  Tesla makes grid batteries using the same or similar tech as for their cars.
  - maxerickson 4y ago
    Yeah, I understand. There's nothing stopping a large buyer from getting a good deal on other grid storage. (or say, some other grid storage company deciding to build chargers)

wfhordie 4y ago

Great! I look forward to it. Let’s fucking go. Show me the plans. Show me the permits. Show me the map with the pins that tell me when they’re planning to catch up. Tesla has been firing on all cylinders on this front for years. There’s a new forum thread started for every single charging site that is planned. I want to see this for electrify America stations.