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I don't follow your problem here - there are a ton of people who are registered who never vote, you simply log the votes under the names of people who didn't sh

I don't follow your problem here - there are a ton of people who are registered who never vote, you simply log the votes under the names of people who didn't show up.

tptacek 4y ago
All at the end of the evening? If you do it in the middle of the day, and the actual voter shows up, there's a good chance you're spending the night in Cook County Jail.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  That's the bit everyone seems to miss. Almost all these hypothetical opportunities for fraud fall apart quickly because they require an actual registered voter to exist but not vote, and the moment that voter walks through the door and is told they already voted, all hell will break loose.
  - Izkata 4y ago
    And yet it didn't when tons of people were told that in the 2020 election. Two examples from a quick search: https://nypost.com/2020/11/03/houston-woman-turned-away-from-polls-after-being-told-she-already-voted/ https://nypost.com/2020/11/03/houston-woman-turned-away-from... https://abc11.com/nc-vote-provisional-ballot-voter-already-voted-what-is-a/7588117/ https://abc11.com/nc-vote-provisional-ballot-voter-already-v...
    - rootusrootus 4y ago
      I guess it depends on how literal "all hell will break loose" is defined :). It was worth a story in the news, which is significant. How many of those does it take before it becomes a national headline? Way before we get to enough votes to matter. Imagine in either location it was, say, a dozen people saying that? There'd be calls to invalidate the election results in those areas and redo.
      - Izkata 4y ago
        From the second link: > North Carolina State Board of Elections data shows more than 2,600 voters cast provisional ballots during early voting this year. Around 19% of ballots cast were due to voters--like Prince--who were told they already voted.

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I don't follow your problem here - there are a ton of people who are registered who never vote, you simply log the votes under the names of people who didn't sh

by happyopossum 4y ago

I don't follow your problem here - there are a ton of people who are registered who never vote, you simply log the votes under the names of people who didn't show up.

tptacek 4y ago
All at the end of the evening? If you do it in the middle of the day, and the actual voter shows up, there's a good chance you're spending the night in Cook County Jail.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  That's the bit everyone seems to miss. Almost all these hypothetical opportunities for fraud fall apart quickly because they require an actual registered voter to exist but not vote, and the moment that voter walks through the door and is told they already voted, all hell will break loose.
  - Izkata 4y ago
    And yet it didn't when tons of people were told that in the 2020 election. Two examples from a quick search: https://nypost.com/2020/11/03/houston-woman-turned-away-from-polls-after-being-told-she-already-voted/ https://nypost.com/2020/11/03/houston-woman-turned-away-from... https://abc11.com/nc-vote-provisional-ballot-voter-already-voted-what-is-a/7588117/ https://abc11.com/nc-vote-provisional-ballot-voter-already-v...
    - rootusrootus 4y ago
      I guess it depends on how literal "all hell will break loose" is defined :). It was worth a story in the news, which is significant. How many of those does it take before it becomes a national headline? Way before we get to enough votes to matter. Imagine in either location it was, say, a dozen people saying that? There'd be calls to invalidate the election results in those areas and redo.
      - Izkata 4y ago
        From the second link: > North Carolina State Board of Elections data shows more than 2,600 voters cast provisional ballots during early voting this year. Around 19% of ballots cast were due to voters--like Prince--who were told they already voted.