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> "Given the recent malware hitting the internet for macs, our aggressive firewalling already doesn't cut it for security". Three odd trojans that need to be e
by lloeki 15y ago
> "Given the recent malware hitting the internet for macs, our aggressive firewalling already doesn't cut it for security".
Three odd trojans that need to be explicitly user-installed, rarely if ever met in the wild, and blocked by the daily-updated system are a threat to your über-firewall? I'm not downplaying the recent evolution in the area, but up until now you have to admit it's a dud.
> "They're backed up with a combination of rsync and a home-rolled login hook/git solution"
You do know that Time Machine works perfectly fine on spare bundles over AFP network shares, right? Besides, I wonder if your homebrew rsync solution handles hardlinks correctly in addition to alternate file streams and HFS+ extended attributes. I also wonder what your typical recovery scenarios look like.
> "Nether does a windows domain"
Any Windows computer needs at least an antivirus to combat the daily flow of trojans, and viruses, and worms. (And yes MSE is third-aprty in the sense that it's not there right from the start, enabled by default).
Given the current state of OS X malware, I'd venture to say that the current state of security in OS X is way more than adequate, out to the box.
As for general maintenance, manageability and user assistance, my experience has been such as it is one or two orders of magnitude down from Windows.
- cbs 15y ago>up until now you have to admit it's a dud The genie is out of the bottle, so that doesn't matter anymore. >You do know that Time Machine works perfectly fine [...] Yes, do go on. Lecture me about my environment and my needs. >And yes MSE is third-aprty in the sense that it's not there right from the start Not only do you not know what first-party means, if it was bundled in by default Microsoft would be right back in antitrust court. >As for general maintenance, manageability and user assistance, my experience has been such as it is one or two orders of magnitude down from Windows. Thats awesome, but I'm really not interested in your pissing contest.
- lloeki 15y ago> The genie is out of the bottle It has been for a long time, ever since around Mac OS 8 where the peak production of Mac malware happened. As Miller said, Mac OS X is not necessarily more secure but it's currently comfortably safer. That does not mean the area should not be watched for any evolution. > Lecture me about my environment and my needs. I did not wish to make it sound like a lecture, and am genuinely interested in what your environment looks like and what led you to using rsync instead of Time Machine, and how you overcame the cases I mentioned (if ever you were concerned by them in your use case). > Thats awesome, but I'm really not interested in your pissing contest. I'm not pissing anywhere, but you do seem pissed. If anything, your environment and needs, just like mine, are anecdotal.
- smithian 15y agoIn point of fact, I run no regular antivirus on my windows machine and have had no viruses ever. I verify this with a boot scan. It's not about macs vs PC's it's about user savvy and market penetration.