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> Why should you need an ID to vote? It doesn't make sense. so that only citizens can vote in elections? > Please. It is a barrier that exists. Not everyone h
by adamrezich 4y ago
> Why should you need an ID to vote? It doesn't make sense.
so that only citizens can vote in elections?
> Please. It is a barrier that exists. Not everyone has $22.00.
yes they do. I know one person who does not have a driver's license or state ID, because she doesn't have a birth certificate (lost it). she was almost unable to take her newborn children home because of her lack of birth certificate. she had ample time to save money to acquire these things leading up to her twin sons' birth, but she squandered it weekly on weed. I have worked minimum-wage jobs while living in shitty housing with zero welfare and saving $22 was not difficult. while living in Section 8 housing, receiving WIC and EBT benefits, as well as other forms of welfare, like this ID-less person I know, it would be a cinch. she simply cared more about spending all of her money on weed every paycheck. if she had any desire to vote at all (she doesn't), I would not have any pity for her.
hell, at least around here, if you don't want to work yet still somehow feel like you're contributing to society and therefore want to vote for some reason, it is very easy to panhandle $22 in a single day, as long as you don't spend it on meth or whatever. you're not going to be able to use vague emotional claims that some vague swath of poor downtrodden people (all undoubtedly "minorities" in one way or another, because everywhere in the US is just oh so racist that every time a white person sees someone with a different skin color voting at the booth next to them, their nose visibly wrinkles in disgust, before returning home to recount their experience to their Klansmen buddies, or whatever hallucination you choose to inhabit) who live paycheck to paycheck or are homeless or whatever yet feel that participating in an election is somehow more important than getting a couple dozen bucks together in order to obtain a state ID necessary to participate in society. if you actually cared, again, you would be interested in finding solutions to this problem, instead of throwing your hands up, saying "the mere concept of voter ID in the US is discriminatory and racist and evil and bad and morally wrong, and there's just nothing we can do to change that so the only possible solution is to throw the vote-integrity baby out with the voter-ID bathwater!" if you genuinely cared about this topic then you would be more willing to find compromise in any way, but you're not, so there's not really much further discussion that could be had. and anyway,
> blah blah partisan blah blah blah
here's where I'm done engaging—have a good day.
- mulmen 4y ago> so that only citizens can vote in elections? This isn't a problem voter ID solves. It is even addressed in the wiki! > hell, at least around here, if you don't want to work yet still somehow want to vote for some reason Why should voting be predicated on employment? > it is very easy to panhandle $22 in a single day, Wait whaaaat? Why should I have to panhandle to exercise my rights? > as long as you don't spend it on meth or whatever. Ah yes "poor people are drug addicts". Nice. Why would people with problems want to vote on ways to solve them? > and here's where I'm done engaging, have a good day. I mean these are just things that actually happened. I'm not sure how pointing at reality is partisan.
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