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I loved Fallout 4, I'm sorry. Every second. I think a lot of people see the older games through nostalgia lenses when their lives were better/minds were young

I loved Fallout 4, I'm sorry. Every second. I think a lot of people see the older games through nostalgia lenses when their lives were better/minds were younger/they were first experiencing an engrossing RPG. I played NV after 4 and NV was good too. Fallout 3 I keep giving up on and I'm not a quitter. It just doesn't draw me in like the other ones. It seems crude and simple comparatively, due to its age I guess.

kaibee 4y ago
Try Fallout 2.
ericd 4y ago
It's not just nostalgia, go play Fallout 2, GoG has a copy that should work. It holds up extremely well, because it's just a much better game than the Bethesda versions. The writing, the humor, the world building, it feels a lot more alive and real than the much more technically advanced iterations. Fallout 1 is less polished, but also great. Fallout 3+ always felt like a reskinned Elder Scrolls to me.
- lostmsu 4y ago
  I did exactly that. Multiple times, including before Fallout 3 came out, after, and also pretty recently. IMHO, Fallout 2 sucks in comparison with anything F3+. Worldbuilding might be there, but the gameplay simply isn't. There's nothing wrong with being "a reskinned Elder Scrolls". Elder Scrolls is a great game (series). It is up there in the hall of masterpieces along with GTA and CS. If you don't believe my word, look at Steam stats: https://store.steampowered.com/stats/ https://store.steampowered.com/stats/ Like many here I also believed F3 and NV had better storytelling. But many hours of playing later, I see that I actually prefer F4.
  - oneoff786 4y ago
    I think most of F and ES games are pretty boring, and the chart is about as compelling as cable ratings the Big Bang theory is a great show. It has mass appeal. It’s a very successful game. But they seem dull to me. The newer ones at least.
    - lostmsu 4y ago
      The chart is more compelling than your (or mine) personal opinion. Especially, when it is not substantiated.
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antisthenes 4y ago
> I think a lot of people see the older games through nostalgia lenses when their lives were better/minds were younger/they were first experiencing an engrossing RPG. Yes, they do. But it is absolutely not the case here, sorry. F4 is just a worse game. It's not the worst game in the series or the genre, but it is utterly mediocre and not at all an example of a resounding success in Bethesda's history as a game company. Metacritic's 5.6/10 User score agrees with me. Doesn't mean you have to stop liking the game. There are plenty of bad games we all play as guilty pleasures. Also, just FYI, I think Fallout 1, the first game in the series is a pretty awful game. It's extremely short, the side quests are all boring fetch/kill quests, the open world is mostly dead. F2 was a huge improvement upon it.
- D13Fd 4y ago
  That’s funny. I played them both at release. I thought Fallout 1 was incredible. I remember getting the trailer literally on VHS tape and being so hyped for it, and it totally lived up to it. It was unlike anything else at the time. Fallout 2 felt kind of watered down by comparison. The whole idea to move the series back by 80 or so years was terrible. The enclave was a terrible idea. The first Fallout made sense 80 years after the war. Everything looks basically the same. People still live in bombed out buildings. Nothing makes sense. The second and later Fallouts were all set way too late.
poisonarena 4y ago
I was a fan of all of them but 4 just felt really dumbed down as far as the story and rpg elements.. I grew up on 1-3 and didn't play NV until last year when I was 36, and I really loved it. It seems to really focus on the crafting and base building and for me that part was not so fun, even though I like the idea
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robonerd 4y ago
I first played Morrowind two or three years ago, a few years after I first played Fallout 4. No nostalgia glasses for me, I had negative interest in games like Morrowind when Morrowind was new. But playing Morrowind made me realize just how crap Fallout 4 is as an RPG. Fallout 4 has almost no choices to make and all the characters worship you as a messiah five minutes after meeting you. Morrowind is very rough around the edges, the roll-based combat system was a very hard swallow. But despite the rough/exploitable mechanics and the bad graphics, Morrowind still manages to be a much more immersive world because the people in it actually make sense. They have their own agendas and biases and they don't care about you until you give them a reason to care. In Morrowind you join a faction and are given orders by some regional flunky, or worse, that regional flunky tells you to buzz off and do shitty odd jobs for another apprentice in the faction. In Fallout 4 you approach a faction and immediately meet the faction leader who tells you that you're Howard's own gift to humanity.

kaibee 4y ago

Try Fallout 2.

ericd 4y ago

It's not just nostalgia, go play Fallout 2, GoG has a copy that should work. It holds up extremely well, because it's just a much better game than the Bethesda versions. The writing, the humor, the world building, it feels a lot more alive and real than the much more technically advanced iterations. Fallout 1 is less polished, but also great. Fallout 3+ always felt like a reskinned Elder Scrolls to me.

lostmsu 4y ago
I did exactly that. Multiple times, including before Fallout 3 came out, after, and also pretty recently. IMHO, Fallout 2 sucks in comparison with anything F3+. Worldbuilding might be there, but the gameplay simply isn't. There's nothing wrong with being "a reskinned Elder Scrolls". Elder Scrolls is a great game (series). It is up there in the hall of masterpieces along with GTA and CS. If you don't believe my word, look at Steam stats: https://store.steampowered.com/stats/ https://store.steampowered.com/stats/ Like many here I also believed F3 and NV had better storytelling. But many hours of playing later, I see that I actually prefer F4.
- oneoff786 4y ago
  I think most of F and ES games are pretty boring, and the chart is about as compelling as cable ratings the Big Bang theory is a great show. It has mass appeal. It’s a very successful game. But they seem dull to me. The newer ones at least.
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    The chart is more compelling than your (or mine) personal opinion. Especially, when it is not substantiated.
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antisthenes 4y ago

> I think a lot of people see the older games through nostalgia lenses when their lives were better/minds were younger/they were first experiencing an engrossing RPG. Yes, they do. But it is absolutely not the case here, sorry. F4 is just a worse game. It's not the worst game in the series or the genre, but it is utterly mediocre and not at all an example of a resounding success in Bethesda's history as a game company. Metacritic's 5.6/10 User score agrees with me. Doesn't mean you have to stop liking the game. There are plenty of bad games we all play as guilty pleasures. Also, just FYI, I think Fallout 1, the first game in the series is a pretty awful game. It's extremely short, the side quests are all boring fetch/kill quests, the open world is mostly dead. F2 was a huge improvement upon it.

D13Fd 4y ago
That’s funny. I played them both at release. I thought Fallout 1 was incredible. I remember getting the trailer literally on VHS tape and being so hyped for it, and it totally lived up to it. It was unlike anything else at the time. Fallout 2 felt kind of watered down by comparison. The whole idea to move the series back by 80 or so years was terrible. The enclave was a terrible idea. The first Fallout made sense 80 years after the war. Everything looks basically the same. People still live in bombed out buildings. Nothing makes sense. The second and later Fallouts were all set way too late.

poisonarena 4y ago

I was a fan of all of them but 4 just felt really dumbed down as far as the story and rpg elements.. I grew up on 1-3 and didn't play NV until last year when I was 36, and I really loved it. It seems to really focus on the crafting and base building and for me that part was not so fun, even though I like the idea

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robonerd 4y ago

I first played Morrowind two or three years ago, a few years after I first played Fallout 4. No nostalgia glasses for me, I had negative interest in games like Morrowind when Morrowind was new. But playing Morrowind made me realize just how crap Fallout 4 is as an RPG. Fallout 4 has almost no choices to make and all the characters worship you as a messiah five minutes after meeting you. Morrowind is very rough around the edges, the roll-based combat system was a very hard swallow. But despite the rough/exploitable mechanics and the bad graphics, Morrowind still manages to be a much more immersive world because the people in it actually make sense. They have their own agendas and biases and they don't care about you until you give them a reason to care. In Morrowind you join a faction and are given orders by some regional flunky, or worse, that regional flunky tells you to buzz off and do shitty odd jobs for another apprentice in the faction. In Fallout 4 you approach a faction and immediately meet the faction leader who tells you that you're Howard's own gift to humanity.