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Looks like programmers wish their favourite language would adopt their new favourite feature right after they've just learned how to use it. Sure, it makes the

Looks like programmers wish their favourite language would adopt their new favourite feature right after they've just learned how to use it. Sure, it makes the language you use more sophisticated, but at the cost of raising the bar for everyone else to learn that language. To continuously add features and complexity to JavaScript makes getting started with web development that much more cruel and arduous for our more junior colleagues. If you like types (and personally — as someone who for the past several years has almost exclusively written Haskell and Elm professionally — I do), why not just pick a different language that has the features you want and compile it down to JavaScript? I have a perception (and I'm sure some would argue it's inaccurate) of the web development community that likes to pat itself on the back for being smart enough to use JavaScript's [relatively] new spread operator, but at the same time whinging about Elm because its syntax looks weird.

frou_dh 4y ago
> the web development community that likes to pat itself on the back for being smart enough to use JavaScript's [relatively] new spread operator, but at the same time whinging about Elm because its syntax looks weird. It's probably more like that meme image from some TV show: Elm user: I feel bad for you. Enthusiastic JS/TS user: I don't think about you at all.
- tialaramex 4y ago
  It's from "Mad Men" the TV show about a US advertising agency, initially on Madison Avenue in New York (hence "Mad Men" from both "Mad[ison avenue]" and "Ad[vertising]"). Don Draper the show's main protagonist dismissed the "I feel bad for you" comment by a minor character this way. Because Don is the protagonist the audience knows how they're expected to feel about that.
  - azemetre 4y ago
    In the context of the episode Don Draper spent the entire episode thinking about the minor character constantly. When he says the line in the elevator we know it’s absolutely not true, especially when the character was asking Draper why he hates him; Draper makes the remark to be more hateful because the character has been occupying his mind for days. Always funny to see “memes” evolve outside the original context.
    - tialaramex 4y ago
      I think you can always take this meme both ways, for example the Metric System / United States of America one, there are definitely Americans who never think about the SI system, and yet it's also true that America as a whole probably is thinking about it and doesn't like how that makes them feel. [ Personally I like Natural units, ie. one of the systems where c = 1 like Planck or Stoney units. These are of course completely impractical for everyday use, but hey, what's not to like about the simplified equation E = m ? I also want French Revolutionary Months (Fructidor is a much better name for a month than "September" is) and the use of Kelvin rather than stupid °C with an arbitrary zero point ]

frou_dh 4y ago

> the web development community that likes to pat itself on the back for being smart enough to use JavaScript's [relatively] new spread operator, but at the same time whinging about Elm because its syntax looks weird. It's probably more like that meme image from some TV show: Elm user: I feel bad for you. Enthusiastic JS/TS user: I don't think about you at all.

tialaramex 4y ago
It's from "Mad Men" the TV show about a US advertising agency, initially on Madison Avenue in New York (hence "Mad Men" from both "Mad[ison avenue]" and "Ad[vertising]"). Don Draper the show's main protagonist dismissed the "I feel bad for you" comment by a minor character this way. Because Don is the protagonist the audience knows how they're expected to feel about that.
- azemetre 4y ago
  In the context of the episode Don Draper spent the entire episode thinking about the minor character constantly. When he says the line in the elevator we know it’s absolutely not true, especially when the character was asking Draper why he hates him; Draper makes the remark to be more hateful because the character has been occupying his mind for days. Always funny to see “memes” evolve outside the original context.
  - tialaramex 4y ago
    I think you can always take this meme both ways, for example the Metric System / United States of America one, there are definitely Americans who never think about the SI system, and yet it's also true that America as a whole probably is thinking about it and doesn't like how that makes them feel. [ Personally I like Natural units, ie. one of the systems where c = 1 like Planck or Stoney units. These are of course completely impractical for everyday use, but hey, what's not to like about the simplified equation E = m ? I also want French Revolutionary Months (Fructidor is a much better name for a month than "September" is) and the use of Kelvin rather than stupid °C with an arbitrary zero point ]