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"What is HOP?" https://hop.apache.org/manual/latest/getting-started/hop-what-is-hop.html https://hop.apache.org/manual/latest/getting-started/hop-wha...

chrisweekly 4y ago
> "VISUAL DESIGN AND METADATA > Apache Hop, short for Hop Orchestration Platform, is a data orchestration and data engineering platform that aims to facillitate all aspects of data and metadata orchestration. Hop lets you focus on the problem you’re trying to solve without technology getting in the way. Simple tasks should be easy, complex tasks need to be possible. > Hop allows data professionals to work visually, using metadata to describe how data should be processed. Visual design enables data developers to focus on what they want to do instead of how that task needs to be done. This focus on the task at hand lets Hop developers be more productive than they would be when writing code."
- Simon_O_Rourke 4y ago
  Thanks for expanding that, it reads like it's some Airflow competitor. Would be curious how it handles all the authentication management for the various pipeline elements.
- jjtheblunt 4y ago
  I'm misunderstanding how so many Apache hosted projects P let someone focus on X without Y getting in the way, totally ignoring the complexity of introducing P and altering everything to align with P, thereby forbidding focus on X. Are these really often useful?
  - ATsch 4y ago
    As far as I can tell, the ASF is just where many companies send their failed Java projects for palliative care.
waynesonfire 4y ago
"Hop initially (late 2019) started as a fork of the Kettle (Pentaho Data Integration)."
- mason55 4y ago
  Wow. PDI is one of the worst pieces of software I've ever used. Possibly only second to Pentaho Report Designer. From looking at the Apache HOP docs, it doesn't look like they have changed the UI much (if at all). I wonder if they at least made it less buggy.

chrisweekly 4y ago

> "VISUAL DESIGN AND METADATA > Apache Hop, short for Hop Orchestration Platform, is a data orchestration and data engineering platform that aims to facillitate all aspects of data and metadata orchestration. Hop lets you focus on the problem you’re trying to solve without technology getting in the way. Simple tasks should be easy, complex tasks need to be possible. > Hop allows data professionals to work visually, using metadata to describe how data should be processed. Visual design enables data developers to focus on what they want to do instead of how that task needs to be done. This focus on the task at hand lets Hop developers be more productive than they would be when writing code."

Simon_O_Rourke 4y ago
Thanks for expanding that, it reads like it's some Airflow competitor. Would be curious how it handles all the authentication management for the various pipeline elements.
jjtheblunt 4y ago
I'm misunderstanding how so many Apache hosted projects P let someone focus on X without Y getting in the way, totally ignoring the complexity of introducing P and altering everything to align with P, thereby forbidding focus on X. Are these really often useful?
- ATsch 4y ago
  As far as I can tell, the ASF is just where many companies send their failed Java projects for palliative care.

waynesonfire 4y ago

"Hop initially (late 2019) started as a fork of the Kettle (Pentaho Data Integration)."

mason55 4y ago
Wow. PDI is one of the worst pieces of software I've ever used. Possibly only second to Pentaho Report Designer. From looking at the Apache HOP docs, it doesn't look like they have changed the UI much (if at all). I wonder if they at least made it less buggy.