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$60k+ luxury cars with $12k DLCs aren’t going to change the world. Tesla morphed long time ago from sustainable energy transformation to car manufacturer/AI hyp
by justapassenger 4y ago
$60k+ luxury cars with $12k DLCs aren’t going to change the world. Tesla morphed long time ago from sustainable energy transformation to car manufacturer/AI hype company. Even Musk says their future is in AI/Teslabot/whatever he comes up with next.
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoSolar, Powerwall, Megapack, Autobidder?
- justapassenger 4y agoAll of them are either shrinking/stagnant or VC level pitches.
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoBased on? From their quarterly reports, they seem to be headed in the opposite direction (up).
- justapassenger 4y agoTesla’s solar is down almost 4x compared to high of Solarcity.
- speedgoose 4y agoWithout Tesla we would have not much better than a Nissan Leaf or a Renault Zoe.
- justapassenger 4y agoThey contributed it it, and likely sped it up, sure. But government regulations were/are much bigger driver of it.
- speedgoose 4y agoI agree but in Norway, most of the government incentives for electric cars were in place 10 to 20 years before the car manufacturers started to sell good electric cars.
- justapassenger 4y agoHard to justify developing totally new types of cars for a country with just 5 million people living it.
- speedgoose 4y agoTrue. Many countries had incentives before the industry reacted to the Tesla model s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_incentives_for_plug-in_electric_vehicles https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_incentives_for_pl...
- ericmay 4y agoIf you're going to take credit from Tesla here on this front and give it to the government, then it's only fair to also mention that government regulations were/are a big driver of fossil fuel subsidies and c02 emissions which is creating a problem. Personally I don't find this to be super constructive. It's similar in some ways to taking credit away from the founder of a company and saying that a VC firm was a much bigger driver of the company's success.
- ahahahahah 4y agoThere's no evidence of that. I could just as easily make the claim that without Tesla we'd have had those cars sooner.
- bhelkey 4y agoIt appears that the cost of Tesla's cheapest car is trending down. The original roadster was 100k in 2008. The cheapest model 3 is currently just under 50K [1]. [1] https://www.tesla.com/model3/design https://www.tesla.com/model3/design